poverty

[braves121]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

The founder was a proud eugenist and white supremecist.  To this day the establishments are concentrated in minority areas. 

The founder who Died in 1966 has nothing to do with policies of modern day PP. they are in minority areas yet whites use their services most 

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, braves121 said:

The founder who Died in 1966 has nothing to do with policies of modern day PP. they are in minority areas yet whites use their services most 

Y’all are either bad at math or good at your pre written narrative 

abortions per 1000

• Non-Hispanic Black: 24.4 abortions per 1,000 women ages 15–44
• Hispanic: 11.6 per 1,000
• Other: 9.4 per 1,000
• Non-Hispanic White: 5.7 per 1,000
• Black rate vs. White rate: ~4.3× higher
• Hispanic rate vs. White rate: ~2.0× higher
• Source: CDC, 2022 abortion surveillance data (32 reporting area

before u ask.   Yes you are correct.   First place is still in first place in raw abortions too 

[Scouts Honor]

56 minutes ago, braves121 said:

please do say how planned parenthood is for eugenics or white supremacy when 57 % of their patients are white. aborting white babies seems the opposite of white supremacy 

White patients account for 39% of abortion patients at Planned Parenthood. [1]

 

[braves121]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Y’all are either bad at math or good at your pre written narrative 

abortions per 1000

 

• Non-Hispanic Black: 24.4 abortions per 1,000 women ages 15–44
• Hispanic: 11.6 per 1,000
• Other: 9.4 per 1,000
• Non-Hispanic White: 5.7 per 1,000
• Black rate vs. White rate: ~4.3× higher
• Hispanic rate vs. White rate: ~2.0× higher
• Source: CDC, 2022 abortion surveillance data (32 reporting area

before u ask.   Yes you are correct.   First place is still in first place in raw abortions too 

White still make up 57 percent of their patients. You are aware PP doesn’t only provide abortions right?

[braves121]

3 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

White patients account for 39% of abortion patients at Planned Parenthood. [1]

 

 

Yep and are 57 percent of planned parenthood’s patients. Abortion isn’t the only thing PP does. Still goes against the white supremicist claim  since that makes no sense to abort any white baby if that’s their goal lmao

[Caveira]

14 minutes ago, braves121 said:

White still make up 57 percent of their patients. You are aware PP doesn’t only provide abortions right?

So mostly birth control for the white ladies ?     Is what I’m guessing 

[mspart]

23 minutes ago, braves121 said:

The founder who Died in 1966 has nothing to do with policies of modern day PP. they are in minority areas yet whites use their services most 

How come in this case, you use gross numbers and in all other cases you use percentages.   Like There are more whites incarcerated than Blacks, but the blacks make up more of their population than the whites do so there is an over representation?   But in this case you want to use gross numbers and not use representation.   Why is that?   Perhaps the representation ruins your argument?

16 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

White patients account for 39% of abortion patients at Planned Parenthood. [1]

 

 

 

11 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Yep and are 57 percent of planned parenthood’s patients. Abortion isn’t the only thing PP does. Still goes against the white supremicist claim  since that makes no sense to abort any white baby if that’s their goal lmao

Is the question abortions or PP patients?   If more blacks are patients than whites, how is that a refutation of white supremacy.    You seem confused.  

mspart

[braves121]

9 minutes ago, mspart said:

How come in this case, you use gross numbers and in all other cases you use percentages.   Like There are more whites incarcerated than Blacks, but the blacks make up more of their population than the whites do so there is an over representation?   But in this case you want to use gross numbers and not use representation.   Why is that?   Perhaps the representation ruins your argument?

 

Is the question abortions or PP patients?   If more blacks are patients than whites, how is that a refutation of white supremacy.    You seem confused.  

mspart

@Offthemat said PP is based on white supremacy . No one even brought up abortions until I said  57 % of planned parenthood patients are white. It really throws the white supremacy narrative out of whack when a a majority of PP patients are white. When you give any abortion or birth control to whites that really doesn’t scream white supremacy to me.

[braves121]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So mostly birth control for the white ladies ?     Is what I’m guessing 

Or other healthcare services. Why would an establishment who people say are eugenic and for white supremacy prevent whites from born?

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, braves121 said:

@Offthemat said PP is based on white supremacy . No one even brought up abortions until I said  57 % of planned parenthood patients are white. It really throws the white supremacy narrative out of whack when a a majority of PP patients are white. When you give any abortion or birth control to whites that really doesn’t scream white supremacy to me.

wtf is a pp white supremacy narrative 

[braves121]

Just now, Caveira said:

wtf is a pp white supremacy narrative 

@Offthemat said planned parenthood is based off white supremacy  

[braves121]

1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

So you’re against funding planned parenthood?  Want it abolished?

@Caveira

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, braves121 said:

@Caveira

I can’t help that black folk are 5x more likely to have an abortion than whites.  Thats for you to explain. 

it’s yall that changed the topic when you couldn’t answer why this is factual about poverty 

of the 36 million in poverty…. Why do 66% just not work?

• 2.85 million worked full-time, year-round.
• 8.64 million worked part-time or part-year.
• 19.03 million did not work during the previous 12 months. 

[Scouts Honor]

27 minutes ago, braves121 said:

@Offthemat said PP is based on white supremacy . No one even brought up abortions until I said  57 % of planned parenthood patients are white. It really throws the white supremacy narrative out of whack when a a majority of PP patients are white. When you give any abortion or birth control to whites that really doesn’t scream white supremacy to me.

eugenics is controlled breeding.

what do you think abortion is..

[Offthemat]

I'm saying PP was founded by a white supremacist eugenics minded person, and even though they may have more white patients,  there main thrust (and probably dollars) are aimed at the same undesirables she was after originally.  She considered some whites just as undesirable as dark skinned people.  The KKK isn't just against dark skinned people.  Sometimes you fellas need to stop and think. 

[Scouts Honor]

9 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

I'm saying PP was founded by a white supremacist eugenics minded person, and even though they may have more white patients,  there main thrust (and probably dollars) are aimed at the same undesirables she was after originally.  She considered some whites just as undesirable as dark skinned people.  The KKK isn't just against dark skinned people.  Sometimes you fellas need to stop and think. 

all of this is right, except i think their main thrust

 

is to push their dollars to dems.

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

eugenics is controlled breeding.

what do you think abortion is..

This  

[KSoze]

3 hours ago, mspart said:

In other words, the numbers don't match anything you are ready to discuss so you are leaving the field of play.  

mspart

Not in the slightest. His AI-generated numbers aren't correct in large part because he's literally ignoring people of retirement age who make up a significant percentage of people below the poverty line and secondly because he's simply making up shit based on his own warped opinion of things about why people aren't working. 

But also because the point of the original comment wasn't about if working poor people exist but rather that the government touting improved poverty numbers of less than one percent is hilarious once you realize what the poverty threshold is and combine that with the fact that there are tens of millions more who can't afford or a struggling to afford essentials. It happens under every administration - COVID-era food subsidies claimed millions out of poverty...expect all that means is that they cleared an absurdly low dollar figure temporarily. It didn't lift anyone out of poverty. 

The ever-expanding group of people struggling to make ends meet at is a problem - blame who you want, blame "this generation," call them lazy with no support, and twist the numbers how you see fit, but when you start with dog whistles, you aren't worth anyone's time. 

[Caveira]

13 minutes ago, KSoze said:

Not in the slightest. His AI-generated numbers aren't correct in large part because he's literally ignoring people of retirement age who make up a significant percentage of people below the poverty line and secondly because he's simply making up shit based on his own warped opinion of things about why people aren't working. 

But also because the point of the original comment wasn't about if working poor people exist but rather that the government touting improved poverty numbers of less than one percent is hilarious once you realize what the poverty threshold is and combine that with the fact that there are tens of millions more who can't afford or a struggling to afford essentials. It happens under every administration - COVID-era food subsidies claimed millions out of poverty...expect all that means is that they cleared an absurdly low dollar figure temporarily. It didn't lift anyone out of poverty. 

The ever-expanding group of people struggling to make ends meet at is a problem - blame who you want, blame "this generation," call them lazy with no support, and twist the numbers how you see fit, but when you start with dog whistles, you aren't worth anyone's time. 

Less than 5-7% of people under the poverty level have jobs.   Any job.  Their age is irreverent.  
 

it has already been proven most of them are able bodied.  If your are old and still under poverty and able bodied  it’s your fault you didn’t find a job.    There are hundreds upon hundreds of jobs near me that don’t require skilled labor and pay above the poverty level.   Go get one.   You don’t need my money.   

Giving the lazy free $$$ doesn’t solve poverty.  Poverty has existed since humans existed.  
 

how much do you donate of your salary over what the government takes from you.  I’ll bet it’s zero.  

Edited September 18 by Caveira

[Scouts Honor]

it's not even so much lazy

it's a mindset and a plan to skim

[Caveira]

22 minutes ago, KSoze said:

Not in the slightest. His AI-generated numbers aren't correct in large part because he's literally ignoring people of retirement age who make up a significant percentage of people below the poverty line and secondly because he's simply making up shit based on his own warped opinion of things about why people aren't working. 

But also because the point of the original comment wasn't about if working poor people exist but rather that the government touting improved poverty numbers of less than one percent is hilarious once you realize what the poverty threshold is and combine that with the fact that there are tens of millions more who can't afford or a struggling to afford essentials. It happens under every administration - COVID-era food subsidies claimed millions out of poverty...expect all that means is that they cleared an absurdly low dollar figure temporarily. It didn't lift anyone out of poverty. 

The ever-expanding group of people struggling to make ends meet at is a problem - blame who you want, blame "this generation," call them lazy with no support, and twist the numbers how you see fit, but when you start with dog whistles, you aren't worth anyone's time. 

Why do more than 66% of the abled bodied people in poverty just not work.  

here is your chance to show why.   

[braves121]

2 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

eugenics is controlled breeding.

what do you think abortion is..

Abortion is healthcare. There is no controlled breeding with planned parenthood. Eugenics would be that they are only aborting those with mental defects, of a certain race, of a certain religion. But everyone on here has provided evidence of all creeds and colors using planned parenthood so you have no claim of eugenics 

[Caveira]

Just now, braves121 said:

Abortion is healthcare. There is no controlled breeding with planned parenthood. Eugenics would be that they are only aborting those with mental defects, of a certain race, of a certain religion. But everyone on here has provided evidence of all creeds and colors using planned parenthood so you have no claim of eugenics 

Math is math 

[braves121]

1 hour ago, Offthemat said:

I'm saying PP was founded by a white supremacist eugenics minded person, and even though they may have more white patients,  there main thrust (and probably dollars) are aimed at the same undesirables she was after originally.  She considered some whites just as undesirable as dark skinned people.  The KKK isn't just against dark skinned people.  Sometimes you fellas need to stop and think. 

Lmao ok man you can not call a person a white supremacist if they think other white people are undesirable that’s directly contradicting 

[braves121]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Math is math 

What math? There no such thing as Eugenics when all races are getting abortions lmao