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Can someone rationalize them putting Snyder on the clock in the second period. He seemed to be holding center and engaging. Perhaps I don't understand the criteria well enough or perhaps it's applied inconsistently, but I swear I've watched match after match where holding center was enough to avoid the activity clock. Was this simply giving each guy a clock?

I'd probably give some grace up two weights against some of the best kids in the country, but it does appear he's not going to be able to hold 144 much longer, if at all. Reynolds really got a takedown at the end during WNO and should have won, but they didn't award it so woulda, shoulda, coulda and all that. But also, the middle weights are always seem to be competitive.

First time on the internet?

That has to be the argument because this is a takedown 100% of the time in college. I thought they used college rules for this event, which is why I was sure it should have been awarded in this exchange. Either way, not the end of the world.

This is takedown, yes?

Not in the slightest. His AI-generated numbers aren't correct in large part because he's literally ignoring people of retirement age who make up a significant percentage of people below the poverty line and secondly because he's simply making up shit based on his own warped opinion of things about why people aren't working. But also because the point of the original comment wasn't about if working poor people exist but rather that the government touting improved poverty numbers of less than one percent is hilarious once you realize what the poverty threshold is and combine that with the fact that there are tens of millions more who can't afford or a struggling to afford essentials. It happens under every administration - COVID-era food subsidies claimed millions out of poverty...expect all that means is that they cleared an absurdly low dollar figure temporarily. It didn't lift anyone out of poverty. The ever-expanding group of people struggling to make ends meet at is a problem - blame who you want, blame "this generation," call them lazy with no support, and twist the numbers how you see fit, but when you start with dog whistles, you aren't worth anyone's time.

I'm not going to engage with people who spew eugenic, white supremacy tropes. It's despicable.

You didn't read it at all, did you? It literally has a full table about illegal immigration and the net impact.

Many poor people work and work multiple jobs. Your job list is the same thing as what they're doing now. Immigrants are a net positive: https://www.cato.org/blog/immigrants-pay-more-taxes-average-person No one is whining. I simply pointed out that the government likes to tout reductions in poverty and provided context as to what that means in the real world. Some people took exception to that and saying deplorable, ignorant shit - like you.

It's literally a tax. https://www.ssa.gov/people/materials/pdfs/EN-05-10297.pdf

Who said anything about everyone being rich? I'm talking about working people being able to eat and keep a roof over your head - basic necessities that are obscured by some government report on who falls below a poverty line that they set. But yeah, bootstrap and all that.

Paying taxes and subsequently having your liability reduced are not the same thing. They pay taxes on payday - like I said. From the reference links: "And the federal individual income tax is just one tax. Nearly all of us pay taxes of some kind. We can pay payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare, state income taxes, general sales taxes, or specific sales taxes on things like gasoline. And tariffs imposed by the Trump Administration will add to our taxes paid in 2025. In fact, many households that owe no federal income tax still pay substantial payroll taxes, often more than they receive in refundable credits. That’s especially true for working families whose earnings are low but steady."

They don't live in the rest of the world.

Federal income taxes. State income taxes. Sales tax. The amounts vary for a lot of reasons (filing status, state of residence, etc.) and you may even get a refund at the end of the year, but people pay taxes in all sorts of ways that reduce their income on payday. But let's assume a person never pays a penny in tax on anything at $32K of income. They're still dirt poor and underwater every month - nearly 36M people - so what's your point?

"The poverty rate — the percentage of people living in poverty — dipped 0.5 percentage point to 10.2% last year, the bureau said. The supplemental measure of poverty, which takes into account non-cash government benefits and taxes, was at 13.1%, and the median household ‌income ⁠increased 2.6% to $87,460. In 2025, a family with two adults and two children was classified as in poverty if their annual income was less than $32,649, the bureau said. The official poverty rate for children fell to a ⁠historic low of 13.4% in 2025. Most people in the United States had health insurance for some or all of 2025, the bureau said, but 26.7 ⁠million people, or 7.9% of the population, did not have health coverage at any time." Current US population estimate is roughly 350M people. 10.2% of that is 35.7M people $32,649 (before tax) a year is: $2,720 a month $680 a week $17/hour If you look at the top line, you think "This is good news." Then you actually look at the metrics and realize that 35M people live in this relatively narrow definition of poverty AFTER including non-cash government benefits. The median rent estimates for a two-bedroom apartment in the US is $1,500-1,600, per apartments.com. A family of four living off of $2,700/month (again, before tax) has roughly $700 (after tax) left after paying rent to pay utilities, buy gas, buy food, buy clothes, etc. I'm happy some additional folks cleared the low bar last year, but there are far more people living in poverty than the government data suggests. Every administration manipulates the numbers because it's relatively easy to push a family of four beyond $32K. We tend to minimize the impact of poverty in this country, as we've seen in the comments already, but those are specious red herrings. It's a real problem because poverty begets many social issues.