poverty

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, Scouts Honor said:

less than 3% of abortions are for mothers health, so less than that ectopic.

but still NOT done by Planned Parenthood

so your premise is crap

This  

[red viking]

59 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Science says life begins at conception. 

Doesn't matter. Control over your own body trumps all. A,woman has a god given right to remove a,fetus from her body, even if you make "killing" it illegal  

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

Doesn't matter. Control over your own body trumps all. A,woman has a god given right to remove a,fetus from her body, even if you make "killing" it illegal  

Wrong skippy. Makes it murder.  

[wrestlingguy]

17 hours ago, KSoze said:

 

I'm not going to engage with people who spew eugenic, white supremacy tropes. 

It's despicable. 

TPT is that you without the pink font?

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

Doesn't matter. Control over your own body trumps all. A,woman has a god given right to remove a,fetus from her body, even if you make "killing" it illegal  

Science only matters when it suits your agenda huh?  Clown show 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, wrestlingguy said:

TPT is that you without the pink font?

I spit out my drink on that one. Thx a lot

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Science only matters when it suits your agenda huh?  Clown show 

When it begins doesnt change a woman's God given right over what's in her body. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

When it begins doesnt change a woman's God given right over what's in her body. 

Absolutely does. Separate dna.  Science remember?  

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Absolutely does. Separate dna.  Science remember?  

She can remove it either way. Whether it can survive outside the womb isnt her problem. She still has the right. 

[wrestlingguy]

11 hours ago, braves121 said:

Hey genius you can’t claim eugenics when they about whites, blacks, Asians, Latins, natives. The whole point of eugenics is to have one race over the other doesn’t quite add up when they abortt all races 

Kpop is the one that brought up eugenics.

[wrestlingguy]

11 hours ago, braves121 said:

Abortion is healthcare. Removing a clump of cells is not murder

Spoken like a women that is trying to smooth her conscience. You were once "just a clump of cells".

Abortion is not healthcare, it's what people that treat sex like a recreational activity use for birth control.

And don't come at me with that "what about rape" BS. It's a very small percentage and my daughter is a product of rape.

[Scouts Honor]

7 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

Spoken like a women that is trying to smooth her conscience. You were once "just a clump of cells".

Abortion is not healthcare, it's what people that treat sex like a recreational activity use for birth control.

And don't come at me with that "what about rape" BS. It's a very small percentage and my daughter is a product of rape.

he still is

[red viking]

8 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

Spoken like a women that is trying to smooth her conscience. You were once "just a clump of cells".

Abortion is not healthcare, it's what people that treat sex like a recreational activity use for birth control.

And don't come at me with that "what about rape" BS. It's a very small percentage and my daughter is a product of rape.

Your wife made a good choice. Thats great but dont force other women to make that same choice. 

[wrestlingguy]

26 minutes ago, red viking said:

Your wife made a good choice. Thats great but dont force other women to make that same choice. 

It just kills me that there are people out there that think life is just disposable. I get it if the mother's life is in danger or there are other devastating circumstances, but how can people look at babies and not realize they are the greatest gifts?

I know there are a lot of people out there that value these children and want them regardless of the circumstances they were born into.

I hate that there are more people that would care if a litter of puppies was killed before a baby.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Control over your own body trumps all.

Does the Covid jab count here.   Could I lose my job if I didn’t get one?

[braves121]

58 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

Spoken like a women that is trying to smooth her conscience. You were once "just a clump of cells".

Abortion is not healthcare, it's what people that treat sex like a recreational activity use for birth control.

And don't come at me with that "what about rape" BS. It's a very small percentage and my daughter is a product of rape.

abortion is healthcare if you like it or not. There are plenty of reasons for abortion, medical or personal. 

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, braves121 said:

abortion is healthcare if you like it or not. There are plenty of reasons for abortion, medical or personal. 

Just an extremely small % of the time.  Y’all love edge cases for your ideas.  
 

like poverty.   For example 66% of people just flat out sit on their definitely hard working asses and don’t work and are 95% able bodied.   What’s the teet the Viking keeps talking about sucking on?

do we spend more than the 3.8 billion on those super hard working poverty stricken people than we give to Israel.   Isn’t it north of a trillion?

[wrestlingguy]

14 minutes ago, braves121 said:

abortion is healthcare if you like it or not. There are plenty of reasons for abortion, medical or personal. 

There are healthcare needs for abortion such as ectopic pregnancies, etc (3%-12%). That doesn't make the larger majority of abortions acceptable.

Saying abortion is "healthcare" is not a very well thought out slogan for the supporters of abortion. The majority of women don't need an abortion to survive. But of course they can't say "abortion, an emergency only procedure" because that would be shaming the people that use it for birth control. They for sure need mental healthcare after though.

Is plastic surgery "healthcare" too? Both are elective.

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, braves121 said:

abortion is healthcare if you like it or not. There are plenty of reasons for abortion, medical or personal. 

some abortions are healthcare.

most abortions are NOT healthcare.

[Scouts Honor]

were clancy's three recent abortions healthcare? 

[braves121]

43 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

 

Is plastic surgery "healthcare" too? Both are elective.

Yes plastic surgery is healthcare. Not all plastic surgery is elective btw like reconstructive surgery after an accident 

[wrestlingguy]

13 minutes ago, braves121 said:

Yes plastic surgery is healthcare. Not all plastic surgery is elective btw like reconstructive surgery after an accident 

You are correct. I was thinking along the lines of breasts and nose jobs.

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

You are correct. I was thinking along the lines of breasts and nose jobs.

Or this?

Illegal aliens are getting taxpayer-funded boob jobs and sex change ops in Newsom's California, watchdog says

Chris Rufo filmed encounters with transgender illegal immigrants outside a San Francisco homeless shelter

Illegal immigrants staying in homeless shelters in California have undergone sex change procedures and cross-sex hormone therapy treatments on the taxpayers' dime, a watchdog unearthed.

Manhattan Institute fellow Chris Ruforeports in a video that some illegal immigrants have accessed transgender medical procedures through California's Medi-Cal program, which provides healthcare coverage to low-income residents regardless of immigration status. The state spends roughly $9 billion in taxpayer dollars to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants, which also includes transgender care, according to the California Department of Health Care Services.

Roughly 1.7 million illegal immigrants received full-scope coverage in California's Medicaid program, which in some instances included "gender-affirming care." California Gov. Gavin Newsom expanded the state's Medicaid program known as Medi-Cal to all immigrants — regardless of legal status — in January 2024.

Edited September 18 by Caveira

[wrestlingguy]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Or this?

Illegal aliens are getting taxpayer-funded boob jobs and sex change ops in Newsom's California, watchdog says

Chris Rufo filmed encounters with transgender illegal immigrants outside a San Francisco homeless shelter

Illegal immigrants staying in homeless shelters in California have undergone sex change procedures and cross-sex hormone therapy treatments on the taxpayers' dime, a watchdog unearthed.

Manhattan Institute fellow Chris Ruforeports in a video that some illegal immigrants have accessed transgender medical procedures through California's Medi-Cal program, which provides healthcare coverage to low-income residents regardless of immigration status. The state spends roughly $9 billion in taxpayer dollars to provide healthcare for illegal immigrants, which also includes transgender care, according to the California Department of Health Care Services.

Roughly 1.7 million illegal immigrants received full-scope coverage in California's Medicaid program, which in some instances included "gender-affirming care." California Gov. Gavin Newsom expanded the state's Medicaid program known as Medi-Cal to all immigrants — regardless of legal status — in January 2024.

Newsom has no idea where the money went but plastic surgery for illegals and free crack pipes is a hint.

[JimmySpeaks]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

She can remove it either way. Whether it can survive outside the womb isnt her problem. She still has the right. 

Nope. She doesn’t.