All-Controversial Team

[Ricketycricket]

47 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

i'm trying to figure to figure out what you were getting at with the post I responded to initially. At this point you seem to be dancing around saying you don't know either. 

I'm not dancing around anything; I don't know what happened and never claimed I did. I do know he was arrested for a potentially serious offense and that makes him a candidate for a controversial team. 

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

 I do know he was arrested 

who?

[Hammerlock3]

46 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

I'm not dancing around anything; I don't know what happened and never claimed I did. I do know he was arrested for a potentially serious offense and that makes him a candidate for a controversial team. 

if someone was arrested for murder and then exonerated you would have recommended them for this topic too right?

[Hammerlock3]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

was Steveson exonerated?  Or did you create a strawman just to grandstand

umm, in a literal world you're correct, you can't be exonerated from crimes that no one has the courage to say out loud...even if they try to imply they exist. 

Edited September 20 by Hammerlock3

[Ricketycricket]

4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

if someone was arrested for murder and then exonerated you would have recommended them for this topic too right?

The amount of bickering on this forum is incredible. Stevenson wasn't exonerated. Don't know why you are so sensitive about it or why you care what i personally think.   

I have no issues mentioning him in the context of this stupid hypothetical thread. 

 

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, Ricketycricket said:

The amount of bickering on this forum is incredible. Stevenson wasn't exonerated. Don't know why you are so sensitive about it or why you care what i personally think.   

I have no issues mentioning him in the context of this stupid hypothetical thread. 

 

well sorry i hold people to a high standard when it comes to rape accusations.

Edited September 20 by Hammerlock3

[flyingcement]

5 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

umm, in a literal world you're correct, you can't be exonerated from crimes that no one has the courage to say out loud...even if they try to imply they exist. 

I deleted my post because I wasn't quite sure about which angle you were arguing, and separately wondered whether my joke may have come across as too personal

[Hammerlock3]

7 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I deleted my post because I wasn't quite sure about which angle you were arguing, and separately wondered whether my joke may have come across as too personal

I wasn't sure what you meant, but I didn't mean to seem ambiguous. My position is a lot of people seem to be coming out of the woodwork with thinly veiled rape accusations enabled by smack talk at a press conference, as if their standard for what constituted sexual assault was dependent what felt trendy that day, which i consider beyond gross. 

I think steveson is generally complete cringe for the record.

Edited September 20 by Hammerlock3

[flyingcement]

Just now, Hammerlock3 said:

I wasn't sure what you meant, but I didn't mean to seem ambiguous. My position is a lot of people seem to be coming out of the woodwork with thinly veiled rape accusations enabled by smack talk at a press conference, as if their standard for what constituted sexual assault was dependent what felt trendy that day, which i consider beyond gross. 

the order of things in my experience is
detainment
arrest
charge
conviction

each of these require a certain amount of evidence. for me personally?  Its the way Steveson has talked about the issues after the fact. very immature and to me troubling.  

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

the order of things in my experience is
detainment
arrest
charge
conviction

each of these require a certain amount of evidence. for me personally?  Its the way Steveson has talked about the issues after the fact. very immature and to me troubling.  

well I'd be perfectly willing to entertain similar ideas if someone provided more information, which i think i asked for when this fruitless back and forth took hold. 

[Hammerlock3]

10 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

MMA has really brought this back huh? 

What exactly is the circumstance that makes it appropriate to run around calling steveson a rapist now? 

I'm sort of wrong because i stated this question as if it was an opinion. It wasn't i thought there must have been new info because it hadn't been mentioned in 1/2 dozen years. 

[MPhillips]

2 hours ago, flyingcement said:

But Mocco has never been accused of rape right?

 

[flyingcement]

29 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I'm sort of wrong because i stated this question as if it was an opinion. It wasn't i thought there must have been new info because it hadn't been mentioned in 1/2 dozen years. 

 

14 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

 

 

[flyingcement]

someone please defend that
@MPhillips

@Hammerlock3

that interview is brutal.  if someone can prove that it was AI and that didn't actually take place,I will apologize

[MPhillips]

6 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Someone please defend that

How did I get caught up in your rape talk? I don't know how/why you chose me? Was it the misspelling schtick? Beyond that I'm I'm lost. 

Edited September 20 by MPhillips
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[Hammerlock3]

10 hours ago, flyingcement said:

someone please defend that
@MPhillips

@Hammerlock3

that interview is brutal.  if someone can prove that it was AI and that didn't actually take place,I will apologize

its evidence he's a dunderheaded charmisma vacuum, though I'm not sure how you handle that, he went for the "don't be silly approach" he probably should have gone for something else. 

[flyingcement]

6 hours ago, MPhillips said:

How did I get caught up in your rape talk? I don't know how/why you chose me? Was it the misspelling schtick? Beyond that I'm I'm lost. 

sorry bro.  i think i misunderstood your emoji response

[1032004]

14 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

if someone was arrested for murder and then exonerated you would have recommended them for this topic too right?

Well, that would be pretty controversial!

14 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I wasn't sure what you meant, but I didn't mean to seem ambiguous. My position is a lot of people seem to be coming out of the woodwork with thinly veiled rape accusations enabled by smack talk at a press conference, as if their standard for what constituted sexual assault was dependent what felt trendy that day, which i consider beyond gross. 

I think steveson is generally complete cringe for the record.

I don’t think it’s really out of the woodwork IMO.  Lots of WWE fans heckled him about it too.

[Hammerlock3]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Well, that would be pretty controversial!

I don’t think it’s really out of the woodwork IMO.  Lots of WWE fans heckled him about it too.

I just hadn't heard it mentioned seriously in a long time, hope that makes my attitude sensical. Again I don't like Steveson, he's pure cringe IMHO.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

15 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I just hadn't heard it mentioned seriously in a long time, hope that makes my attitude sensical. Again I don't like Steveson, he's pure cringe IMHO.

I think it was a big reason the WWE fanbase hated him.  Between the allegations and the horrible mic skills, he had no chance.

When are we going to discuss how much smaller he appears as opposed to his last NCAA season?

[MPhillips]

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

When are we going to discuss how much smaller he appears

Agreed. He looked smaller even in the shoulders/neck. Looked strange.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Agreed. He looked smaller even in the shoulders/neck. Looked strange.

Perhaps smaller AND softer

[Hammerlock3]

2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I think it was a big reason the WWE fanbase hated him.  Between the allegations and the horrible mic skills, he had no chance.

When are we going to discuss how much smaller he appears as opposed to his last NCAA season?

I hadn't noticed myself....allegation seems in character....you seen any convincing side by sides? There is just a lot of variables that could swing me either way.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

8 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I hadn't noticed myself....allegation seems in character....you seen any convincing side by sides? There is just a lot of variables that could swing me either way.

I saw one on the twitter machine yesterday.  I think he is about 20 lbs lighter now, for one thing.  Could anyone find his weight from his NCAA 2nd place finish?

[Hammerlock3]

4 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I saw one on the twitter machine yesterday.  I think he is about 20 lbs lighter now, for one thing.  Could anyone find his weight from his NCAA 2nd place finish?

@wrestlingknownothing is gone apparently.

Yeah if thats the case I'd be onboard with certain accusations, not even sure if its possible to explain away weight loss of that manner in any other way unless he has leukemia or something...even if he got on a soapbox and claimed to be the laziest person on earth not sure that would make it much better.