Trump Signs Executive Order on Transfer Portal

[Le duke]

There's nothing to challenge or overturn in an executive order unless he's instructing an agency to do something illegal in the implementation or enforcement of a law. 
This EO doesn't seem to be asking anyone to do anything illegal. It is instructing agencies to, IMO, waste time and resources and says a lot of words about topics with some legal precedent against them, but that's the prerogative of the president.  

If he denies schools federal funding because they don’t comply with this, he’ll get sued and lose.


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[Fletcher]

3 hours ago, Dan-by Taco said:

 

The President knows

This will be challenged and overturned. I think it is to get the ball rolling on common sense dialogue. 7, 8 year guys pushing high 20s is not in the spirit of collegiate competition in my opinion whether it benefits my school or not. An age or year of play seems more enforceable over the transfer rule. I liked the thought of 1 transfer then another would cost a year. I’m sure it’s not fair to some but every year free agency is not healthy either imo. I think many of us don’t like the rent a player mindset but know it’s part of the game now. It would be nice to solve some of these issues and he was getting the discussion going. Unlike the last guy, he can multi-task. As GV4444 stated, unlikely he spent time on this. It’s a problem many believe, he has people try to solve it, then puts out a solution or to create dialogue. Even fans of big programs seem to not like small schools recruit, develop, then lose their guy, it’s not good for the sport imo. Young men have been offered opportunities to make money and it’s tough to regulate but many of us believe some guard rails are needed. Wrestling doesn’t make lots of money (most programs) at the current rate many opportunities will be lost, many stories will be gone, as we could have 5 super programs and everyone else punches out of the sport. 

Way to make a bunch of good points, only to undermine then with a gratuitous political jab. Very on brand for MAGA.

[Offthemat]

It’s just a first step, the result of, and somewhat mirrors the remarks at the round table discussion at the White House among coaches and other NCAA interested invitees.  Saban was the only one I recognized.  Not many people are supportive of the current situation.  
 

The NFL used to show the name of the school the player had attended when they highlighted them onscreen.  They don’t even pretend any connection between athletics and academics anymore. 

[Balthazar]

8 minutes ago, Offthemat said:

It’s just a first step, the result of, and somewhat mirrors the remarks at the round table discussion at the White House among coaches and other NCAA interested invitees.  Saban was the only one I recognized.  Not many people are supportive of the current situation.  
 

The NFL used to show the name of the school the player had attended when they highlighted them onscreen.  They don’t even pretend any connection between athletics and academics anymore. 

Yet they never propose capping coach and staff salaries. Athletes should have the right to go anywhere they want, whenever they want, and get paid what they're worth, as should everyone.

[Offthemat]

12 minutes ago, Balthazar said:

Yet they never propose capping coach and staff salaries. Athletes should have the right to go anywhere they want, whenever they want, and get paid what they're worth, as should everyone.

I can understand impressing the emphasis on basing the decision on more than money.

[Le duke]

It’s just a first step, the result of, and somewhat mirrors the remarks at the round table discussion at the White House among coaches and other NCAA interested invitees.  Saban was the only one I recognized.  Not many people are supportive of the current situation.  
 
The NFL used to show the name of the school the player had attended when they highlighted them onscreen.  They don’t even pretend any connection between athletics and academics anymore. 

Again:

The SEC is mad that they no longer have a monopoly on a particular sport and that “their” athletes have bargaining power.


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[boconnell]

32 minutes ago, Balthazar said:

Yet they never propose capping coach and staff salaries. Athletes should have the right to go anywhere they want, whenever they want, and get paid what they're worth, as should everyone.

You know this doesn't happen in professional sports right?  Every professional sport has multi year contracts that restrict player movement.  Even 1 year contracts don't allow athletes to switch teams midseason at their own initiative.  No sport with teams could survive if the athletes could just go wherever they wanted whenever they wanted. 

It's absurd to stop college athletes from being compensated.  It's absurd to propose they can go anywhere whenever they want.  

[ionel]

38 minutes ago, Balthazar said:

Yet they never propose capping coach and staff salaries. Athletes should have the right to go anywhere they want, whenever they want, and get paid what they're worth, as should everyone.

Why do universities even have classes, credit hours, requirements for majors, minimum credits to graduate etc?  Shouldn't there just be a single online clearing house for course work and students able to complete such credits anywhere anytime they want?  What is the point of universities?  

[Fletcher]

50 minutes ago, Balthazar said:

Yet they never propose capping coach and staff salaries. Athletes should have the right to go anywhere they want, whenever they want, and get paid what they're worth, as should everyone.

If that's what the athletes want, they should just disaffiliate from the school. Let's do away with charade that they're students.

[Balthazar]

13 minutes ago, ionel said:

Why do universities even have classes, credit hours, requirements for majors, minimum credits to graduate etc?  Shouldn't there just be a single online clearing house for course work and students able to complete such credits anywhere anytime they want?  What is the point of universities?  

Students transfer to other schools all the time. Credits transfer. There are literally no restrictions, aside from getting accepted. Do you not know how colleges work?

[Balthazar]

7 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

If that's what the athletes want, they should just disaffiliate from the school. Let's do away with charade that they're students.

Why should it be your business what they do and why they do it?

[Balthazar]

24 minutes ago, boconnell said:

You know this doesn't happen in professional sports right?  Every professional sport has multi year contracts that restrict player movement.  Even 1 year contracts don't allow athletes to switch teams midseason at their own initiative.  No sport with teams could survive if the athletes could just go wherever they wanted whenever they wanted. 

It's absurd to stop college athletes from being compensated.  It's absurd to propose they can go anywhere whenever they want.  

There are literally rules, and they're following the rules.

[ionel]

6 minutes ago, Balthazar said:

Students transfer to other schools all the time. Credits transfer. There are literally no restrictions, aside from getting accepted. Do you not know how colleges work?

Credits don't transfer everywhere.  Why should athletes get accepted when academics students don't.  Do you not know how universities (they aren't "colleges") work.  

[AlderPeak]

1 hour ago, boconnell said:

You know this doesn't happen in professional sports right?  Every professional sport has multi year contracts that restrict player movement.  Even 1 year contracts don't allow athletes to switch teams midseason at their own initiative.  No sport with teams could survive if the athletes could just go wherever they wanted whenever they wanted. 

It's absurd to stop college athletes from being compensated.  It's absurd to propose they can go anywhere whenever they want.  

Pro sports have multi-year contracts because that's what the owners offer.  Colleges offer one year renewable scholarships because they want the flexibility to process athletes out of their programs.  If schools don't want to see a college athlete jump from place to place, the easy solution is to sign every freshman to a five year guaranteed scholarship with the appropriate compensation.  

Four year scholarships were actually the norm way back when, but the schools voted to eliminate those in 1973 and they were banned from 73-2012.  The ban ended then, so schools are free to offer them now.  The reason they don't is because they want roster flexibility...and then they rely on public sentiment to shame the athletes who transfer.  

If the schools don't want to offer stability to athletes, then why should I want the athletes to offer loyalty to schools?

[Fletcher]

3 hours ago, Balthazar said:

Why should it be your business what they do and why they do it?

Because my tax dollars are funding these schools and their bloated athletic dept. budgets.

[CHROMEBIRD]

29 minutes ago, Fletcher said:

Because my tax dollars are funding these schools and their bloated athletic dept. budgets.

Two separate entities

[Fletcher]

18 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Two separate entities

No. Schools fund their athletic depts. Schools fund revenue-sharing. Schools organize the NIL collectives. Separate these athletes from the school and their earning power drops dramatically.

[boconnell]

3 hours ago, AlderPeak said:

Pro sports have multi-year contracts because that's what the owners offer.  Colleges offer one year renewable scholarships because they want the flexibility to process athletes out of their programs.  If schools don't want to see a college athlete jump from place to place, the easy solution is to sign every freshman to a five year guaranteed scholarship with the appropriate compensation.  

Four year scholarships were actually the norm way back when, but the schools voted to eliminate those in 1973 and they were banned from 73-2012.  The ban ended then, so schools are free to offer them now.  The reason they don't is because they want roster flexibility...and then they rely on public sentiment to shame the athletes who transfer.  

If the schools don't want to offer stability to athletes, then why should I want the athletes to offer loyalty to schools?

But what's the price of tea in china?

[boconnell]

4 hours ago, Balthazar said:

There are literally rules, and they're following the rules.

What does this even mean?  Nobody even agrees what the rules are. 

The long term restrictive rule set went away and now the few remaining rules can't be agreed upon.  Is it following the rules when someone says the rule shouldn't exist and local and district courts go back and forth on whether the remaining rules can remain?  Is it 4,5,6,7, or 8 years of eligibility.  Does juco count or not count?  Does a local Mississippi court get to decide if the Ole Miss QB gets an extra year or is that a district court or and appeals court or the supreme court?  Or does the NCAA decide the rules?  Or a not yet formed players union?  Or each conference?  There are no eligibility laws, so is it a court issue or an NCAA issue?  Can you enforce a coach's buyout?  Can you enforce an NIL buyout on a player?  If a player shows up and doesn't get the promised NIL money what can they do?  

There literally aren't rules, and nobody can follow them even if they want.  

I am completely for athletes getting the biggest possible share of the money they create (or more then their share if they can).  I am all for athletes having the freedom to not be stuck in a situation they don't want.  I am all for coaches not being able to force kids into decisions by holding lost eligibility over their heads.

But your suggestion that they should be able to go wherever they want whenever they want is just silly and completely unworkable.  Midseason (or midweek) transfers back and forth should really be allowed?  Just let them go wherever whenever?  That's a real viewpoint you hold?

[Caveira]

22 hours ago, Balthazar said:

There are literally rules, and they're following the rules.

Carl said no one is following the rules but him 

[AgaveMaria]

A nutcase suffering from Syphilitic Dementia who has been convicted of more Felonies than Al Capone, Bernie Madoff, Jeffrey Dahmer and Ted bundy combined as well as being found a Sexual Predator by trial(& owes one victim more than $80 million) who could not qualify to teach at any College or University it telling the NCAA how to run things?

What's next - he decides on a career as a gay Interior Decorator - using the White House as his resume?

[DazeofGrace]

On 4/4/2026 at 2:02 PM, Fletcher said:

Because my tax dollars are funding these schools and their bloated athletic dept. budgets.

Your tax dollars . You don’t have the first idea where your tax dollars go. Sit down. It literally isn’t your business because it doesn’t affect you one way or the other. Much better to let the universities monetize the players. That makes way more sense. 

Edited April 6 by DazeofGrace
Typo

[DazeofGrace]

On 4/4/2026 at 2:53 PM, Fletcher said:

No. Schools fund their athletic depts. Schools fund revenue-sharing. Schools organize the NIL collectives. Separate these athletes from the school and their earning power drops dramatically.

So without the players the schools would still generate the same revenue? You say some absolutely wild things on here. And frankly you sound like someone in admin. No one loves how it is now, but kids have been getting monetized and programs pocketing for years. There is a reason even the Supreme Court agreed and made the decision they did. 

[1032004]

8 hours ago, DazeofGrace said:

So without the players the schools would still generate the same revenue? You say some absolutely wild things on here. And frankly you sound like someone in admin. No one loves how it is now, but kids have been getting monetized and programs pocketing for years. There is a reason even the Supreme Court agreed and made the decision they did. 

They both need each other.  The statement is true that without the school the athlete’s earning power drops dramatically.  But the school needs the top athletes too.

[Fletcher]

4 hours ago, 1032004 said:

They both need each other.  The statement is true that without the school the athlete’s earning power drops dramatically.  But the school needs the top athletes too.

In the context of wrestling (i.e. the subject of this message board) less than 1% of all programs across D1-D3 are revenue positive. So I'd say schools don't need top athletes. In fact, they'd be better off financially without any wrestling program at all.