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This is going to be fascinating. I don't know what the Raney's Collegiate careers look like. I don't think the Mirasola's will stick around if we're 3 years into their careers and the "better" Mirasola isn't starting. BUT, just looking at OKC...that is a TON of talent and I think once you get past '33, it starts to lean to OKC if they can be developed...I don't know man, it looks like that's pretty damn close. I love Ross. I'm driving that bandwagon with the normal *if healthy, if a one sport athlete caveat, but I don't know if anyone not named Kueter is beating him if he's Wrestling still(I'm not sure where that Football career is going, but I doubt he's giving up on it...but he's also really hurting it at this point...IF he has the talent to play at the next level). Jax and Blaze is a toss-up. Vega and Herring, gotta go Vega. I'll take Kaak and Duke at the next two, then Lockett and Rydger, Barr and Ross. Who knows. 3 years ago I'm not sure I'd have Barr as my clear favorite to win the NC after taking 2nd as a Freshmen at 197, but I made a post about this when the Raney's committed, just based on the next 2 recruiting classes, I don't know who has more talent, but I know who recruited more complete classes.

But Duke made Final X and Blaze did not.

No, you're the bad guy that I didn't want to be. I figured cut him some slack. He's a high schooler wrestling up a weight, but you opened the door and I figured I'd back you up. I'm sure you feel the same way, he's obviously a super talent and no part of me is doubting how successful he can be, but I think it's fair to say that his style this weekend was "cautious," to put it politely. I didn't notice his arms being in too unusual of a position. I'll have to watch for it next time.

But if you rank by bags of cash ...

That's kind of what I thought. You don't typically see a TD awarded in FS until the defending wrestler turns down and the attacking wrestler is on top and completely behind. If there were a couple more seconds, Dake likely gives up exposure or has to turn down to avoid doing so. In folkstyle that would have 100% been a takedown, but like the quad pod, FS takedowns are called differently.

I heard different but I might be missremembering. Kamala: "... let us remember to remember that memory may be forgotten and just because we know what we knew does not mean we knew what we know or remember what we forgot."

I did say in the last 20 years, but Steveson was a glaring omission. But the main point was disputing the claim that "not many win gold after 25." The opposite is true. The majority of USA's gold's have been won by wrestlers 25 or older and winning a world title before the age of 25 is actually the outlier.

Dake found Jesus.

Yeah I think a tier system makes more sense than rankings and those three are tier 1 right now.

Gable Steveson & I dont know if Brandon Slay was at or just under 25 when he won it in 2000.

Haha okay not just me then. Felt a little bad being critical since he's a high schooler but man I hope he opens up. Guns holstered it is right now. Speaking off... He holds his arms at an angle I've never really seen before. Kinda like a praying mantis look. Is he just super lanky?

Buns glazing

Gimme Blaze over PJ but I think the first 3 are all at least a tier separated from Bassett.

Read the post I was responding to, and then read my post and figure out why I mentioned Kyle Snyder's name twice. You can figure this out. I believe in you.

My hope is that he was just tentative to take a shot against bigger, stronger opponents. I don't remember him being so brutal to watch at 61kg. But I felt the same way, I almost created a thread wondering if we found Bartlett's heir apparent. If he wrestles at 141 next year, I fear that we may be in line for some brutal matches. What's the opposite of guns Blaze-ing? Guns holstered? Might have to start workshopping a nickname just in case.

Snyder won at 19 first.

I would say indisputable. You nailed it, Jimmy!

My brother.. All of Dake's Golds.. he was 27 or older All of David Taylor's golds.. 27 or older and DT was 32 when he won his last World Gold. All of Burroughs golds other than 2011 happened when he was 25 or older and his last gold was at 33 Gilman was 26. Stieber was 25. Micic was 27. Snyder won gold at 26. How many world gold medalists have been won by wrestling under 25 in the last 20 years in men's FS? Cejudo, Snyder.. and?

not sure if I'm correct but I think thats the way it works in a lace

That's interesting, thanks for explaining. My immediate reaction is I hate that as a hard and fast rule lol

Taking into account results so far, is this disputable?

The venue doesn’t have great air circulation, four big fans (one in each corner) and nothing in the middle. Midway today they pulled curtains over the giant windows which seemed to help a tad I personally didn’t think it was too bad (I was on the floor coaching all day for Central Regionals) but heard a lot of complaints from folks about the heat in the venue

If I were NLWC, I’d have Dake doing Zercher squats and sled pushes. I hate to say it, but the path to victory is clear, but very ugly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ab. Or so I’m told was closer To oly gold than Spencer Lee. So. He’s light years ahead of Cstar at this point.