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And why is that? Why is it "very likely" at a time when Iranian Soldiers are joining in the protests despite being threatened with treason...why do you think it'd require someone to "flatten" Tehran in order for the Iranian people to execute regime change? The Iran-Iraq War turned when we destroyed their Navy in '88. And we definitely took control of Afghanistan. But AGAIN...as I'm trying my best to articulate, comparing Persia, Iran to Iraq and Afghanistan is a foolish comparison to begin with. There's a WHOLE helluva lot more of an appetite to see a new Govt in Iran than there ever was in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Unless somebody flattened Tehran, it's very unlikely they'll displace whoever is in charge externally. Even if they did that it would be like kicking a hornets nest. Iraq with their superior military had them on the run until they ran into problems that Iran presented. Also we never controlled Afghanistan. Another place that is next to impossible to invade and hold.

Well...nobody said we were going to invade, but, no, it's not "basically impossible" to "forcibly invade," Iran. It's more difficult to invade Afghanistan and we did... The DIFFERENCE...again, was the strength and support the Taliban supported there, the 14 different clans who united to keep fighting and Afghanistan NEVER had anywhere NEAR the support from the people for Regime change. Oh Christ, we just came in and dropped 14 30,000 pound bombs and 30 Tomahawk missiles on Iran and we got in and got out undetected and with absolutely no resistance. Their Navy is comically overmatched by the US Navy. They're NOT "virtually impossible," to invade when they can't protect their coasts or their sky. Now, with regard to their proxies, they've largely been neutralized. The US Navy handed a nearly decade long war to Iraq in an afternoon. But TO BE CLEAR... there is absolutely ZERO indication the United States is interested in ANY ground invasion.

Based on what? This feels like an assumption. Lets take this a step further and say that Trump would have seized power through force(not hard to imagine)... and about ~30M people had to flee the Country. During that time, he executed Family who remained behind, he committed horrible atrocities on those who didn't get out including taking the eyes of women who protest. And then a Country bombs some underground bunkers. YOU'D be upset about that? Because you KEEP saying Iranian Ex-Pats "don't like the Ayatollah," which is silly, they HATE the Ayatollah, but they're still mad about the US bombing their Country. I'm asking WHERE are you getting that beyond a feeling? I could give you sources of people or again, share my own anecdotes as I told you, I know a very large, extended family who fled Iran, went to India and now live in the US and they VERY much would love to see a 30,000 pound bomb land on the entire Gov't of the Islamic Republic of Iran. But you're saying...you'd feel differently. Well... try and imagine a different set of scenarios beyond you WANTING to leave the US for...whatever reasons you mentioned.

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Also Iran is basically impossible to forcibly invade for a variety of reasons. So they aren't helpless in a war, but trying to defeat them in a war would be extremely costly and they would make sure of that happening even without nukes.

While most exiles who left because of the revolution don't like the ayatollahs they also don't like the fact that another country is bombing their country at all. It is like how I may not like Trump, but if another country bombed us, I'd still be mad about it happening. Most Iranians don't like the government, but doing this is a sure way to help the ayatollahs consolidate their power.

I'd GLADLY see the US supporting the Crown Prince and rebel forces. Arm them, let them fight. But we can't do anymore than that. Iran needs to be taken back by it's own people(to your point).

They were. The same group that determined they were not working toward Nuclear weapons when Trump pulled out in 2018 said they were now. That's more than enough for me. -I only brought up Tulsi Gabbard because it showed the hypocrisy of the right, but...C'mon, they've been working toward it since 2019 and they have literally admitted to as much. They said they'd give up their efforts and re-engage in negotiations if the other parties upheld their end(Trump). So they admitted it. Also, the source we used in 2018 when Trump pulled out. https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-3-march-2025?utm_source=chatgpt.com AGAIN I'd like to point out the difference between @Scouts Honor or @Caveira is my actually change when the facts chance. If you believed this in 2018, why wouldn't you believe it now?? 1-Are you kidding? The hell there isn't. We have ACTUAL PROOF of transfers of tens of millions of dollars a year from the Iranian Govt to these groups! No evidence? AMPLE evidence. 2-The Ayatollah doesn't NEED to "represent" the Citizens, he has absolute control. But we didn't hit Civilian Targets. The MAJORITY of Iranians are in favor of Regime change, but the fact of the matter is, THIS is the regime we have to deal with. 3-I didn't say it STARTED in Iran, I'm speaking present tense. If I was looking back, I'd look at Saudi Arabia...who we signed a peace treaty with at Camp David, or Jordan who signed at the Oslo Accords. Iraq is just trying to get by. The POWER in the Region TODAY is Iran. I NEVER said it "started" there. My exact words; IRAN is undisputedly the largest State Sponsor of Terrorism in the World. And we're going to allow them to get a Nuclear Weapon when they've already said they'll use it on Israel? Oh nonsense. They can't even get past Israel's Iron Dome and we have a VASTLY superior air defense network. 2-I've REPEATEDLY spoken of the PEOPLE of Iran, those who've come here, the millions and millions(which is now tens of millions) who are living outside of Iran due to the Ayatollah. So you don't need to inform me it's not the "people of Iran." But if you have the POWER, you're the only one that matters. That's just...basic fact. The are impotent. Iran vs Israel+the US is like Eddie Hall(6'8 480LB world's strongest man) and a child. The power imbalance is comical. Unless... you irresponsibly let the Child have access to a gun. THAT is the equivalent of allowing Iran to have a Nuclear weapon. And finally, are you using Russia? Their Military is depleted and in NO position to equip Iran. We destroyed their Navy on accident in an afternoon when there was a helluva lot more powerful Nations in the Middle East. They can ONLY touch us through terrorist attacks and they were going to commit those either way. What metric will you use to determine if I'm right or you're right? Whatever... I'm not getting into this. Experts on Iran have cautioned against Regime Change as we may end up with someone who is even more of a hardliner. I'm arguing facts on this. Not how much I hate Trump. There's nothing substantial here about the veracity of taking out Iran's Nuclear facilities. Do not condescend to me. I'm not Jimmy/Scouts or another jackass on here. I well aware of what is going on. This was NOT a "massive military engagement." NOT on behalf of the US and Trump set a limit for the Cease Fire. And it would appear I AM paying closer attention to what Israel and Iran are saying; ISREAL SAID IT'S OBJECTIVES HAVE BEEN MET. Iran said THEY'D agree to the ceasefire if Israel did likewise. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-israel-us-latest-news/card/israel-confirms-ceasefire-CwJztfY5XEbBext6QWVa?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/oil-price-sp500-futures-trump-announces-israel-iran-ceasefire-hormuz-2025-6?utm_source=chatgpt.com So there's no "cutting and running," they've agreed to the cease fire. Period. BOTH sides have. Really? How many boots on the ground are there? What have we committed ourself to? WE bombed their Nuclear bunkers and they've agreed to a Cease Fire because they DO NOT POSSESS THE MIITARY CAPABILITY TO HURT US. Again, I would expect them to commit some cowardly acts of terror, but they would and have been doing that either way. This bears NO resemblance to Iraq, Afghanistan or even Somalia, Syria. But keep talking to me like I'm some wet behind the ears version of Scout or Jimmy with no Historical understanding. I think that's comical. It's actually not that confusing. It's rather simple. it's devastating to Iran. They got slapped around by the US who decimated their Nuclear programs. Israel already decapitated their intelligence agency by taking out 20 high ranking officials. Iran TRIED to strike back in a futile effort and just as with Operation Praying Mantis, they were helpless to do anything. You want some history, understand the cap between Israel's Military power, then compare that to the US. Then compare THAT to Iran...and it's a joke. Their leader is in hiding. I'm sure when there's some attack in the United States it will be devastating to those involved. This was a threat that HAD to be dealt with. You would be FAR better off arguing Trump's rhetoric and decisions in 2018 to pull out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the JCPOA. But we did. And I'm talking about RIGHT NOW. You're acting as though this is...Afghanistan 2.0 when in facts, it's not. It's over. Iran would be foolish to do anything else. They cannot defend their airspace, they cannot defend the Sea, they cannot defend their borders if we choose to invade(which we won't do, but hypothetically, if they wanted to, they simply lack the man power, the fire power...all of it).

Agreed - we have different perspectives on this issue. I do not agree with yours. Specifically: "Iran WAS building nuclear weapons." - this is, in no way, a fact. Per recent US Intelligence: Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year. The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels. "Hamas, Hezbollah, the attack on Israel that set everything off. It's...all starting in Iran." - No evidence. These groups that run middle eastern countries are more like a bunch of connected mob bosses than anything else. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Ayatollah - do govern, but don't represent the citizens. To say it "started in Iran" is nonsense. Warlords and terrorist organizations have lorded over these countries for many decades. What ails the middles east is their existence. But to pinpoint that existence to Iran is ignorant. "Iran WANTS us dead." They will hit back, they were going to hit back anyway, but their military is pathetic relatively speaking. They are impotent. They can't do anything. Here is where you're again wrong. Iranian citizens don't want us dead. But the proxies the Iranian government employs absolutely do. It's not the Iranians, it's the Houthi's, etc. Iran has a significant amount of military weaponry at their disposal. Much like the US has been the supplier of weapons to the west - Iran has been a major supplier to the east. They are nowhere near impotent. Those they have been supplying to are being very vocal at the moment to defend Iran (ex: Russia.) "I thought this was the right move." I disagree. Just own it when we find you are wrong. I'll do the same. "he's not going to take out the Ayatollah" He's not going to do anything that isn't served up to him on a silver platter by people who already made the hard decisions. Because he's a mush brain who isn't capable of any independent decision making - just following those he thinks he can trust (like Putin, at least at one point.) If someone talks to him the right way... he'll do something neither of us could imagine. "Israel should stop at this point, but this just isn't the massive military engagement it's being made out to be." Have you not been paying attention to what N'yahoo has been saying? Now that I think about it - you must not be paying attention. Israel isn't looking to cut and run. They're in it for the long haul. Read more. Think more. This is exactly the massive military engagement it is being made out to be. WW3 is a stretch, but not by much. "Will it draw the US into a protracted Miltary Engagement? I don't think so..." The US is committed at this point. We won't be "drawn in" - we already drew ourselves in. That is done. You must be young and full of positive energy to not see the sorry spot we're in. The truth is that this situation has all the earmarking's of a long, ugly, and potentially devastating event. Who will it be "devastating" to? That remains to be seen. But as is always in war, nobody wins, everybody loses. And it's all started by those with the least to lose.

We were wrong, iran will be at worlds

this explains so much about you

Re; his approval rating, there are...a lot of antisemites in this country. I don't think it'd drop that much(though I get 0 was hyperbolic). I guess we just disagree on this issue. I mean, Trump DID put himself between a "rock and a uranium place," by pulling out of the deal in 2018. But...lets set that aside and break it down; -Iran WAS building nuclear weapons. -We did NOT kill civilians, we targeted bunkers. -Iran is really at the heart of everything that ails the Middle East. -Hamas, Hezbollah, the attack on Israel that set everything off. It's...all starting in Iran. -Iran WANTS us dead. They will hit back, they were going to hit back anyway, but their military is pathetic relatively speaking. They are impotent. They can't do anything. You say he had a whole chessboard...and I'd love to trash Trump. He's a moron and most world leaders mock him. But they can't mock the US Military and...frankly... I thought this was the right move. I believe he pushed BACK on the Hawks, he's not going to take out the Ayatollah. Iran doesn't have the ability to hit back. It kinda seems like this is...over. Israel should stop at this point, but this just isn't the massive military engagement it's being made out to be. Consequential, certainly. Will it draw the US into a protracted Miltary Engagement? I don't think so...

Are you really sure your "peak at the football spreadsheet" of a single collective told the full story? Some info here, here, here, here. While 52% of Division I athletes are people of color, they only received 16% of the total NIL compensation as of a couple years ago.

Unfortunately, this one goes into the Hall of Fame of Most Desperate and Sad of all time. Reflects power? No. Reflects strength? No. Reflects intelligence? No. Reflects rational thought? No. Reflects the oldest US President ever elected with mush for brains who thinks he can fake his way through it? Yes.

I don't know the realities of the situation but surely it is not hard to understand that someone could be generous with their money while simultaneously being legally cautious

Why stop there? Since Iowa fans ALREADY think Bo's "not the right fit" explanation was "nasty," a "shot" against the Hawks, and "an unethical attack" against the most ethical program since the beginning of time, let's hope Bo now feels liberated to say EXACTLY why, in detail, Iowa not the right fit for what he wants in wrestling, what he wants as a person, and how they are not compatible with his faith journey. Details, Bo, details! They already think you're a liar and a traitor, so no reason to hold back now, right? Your 200K followers want to know! Explain in detail to all the up-and-coming recruits who idolize you, and don't leave out a single description of how Iowa fell short of your expectations. They burned the bridge, so what do you have to lose?

It's someone who can shovel their own driveway...and it's about a quarter mile long. I mean, I don't...usually, but I'll shovel the walk way and stairs down to the lake. I can hire people to...plant my Garden. I just had to cut a couple trees down and pull out the stumps for a pole barn I put up. I COULD have hired someone... but why? Are you so soft you can't do anything? Hell, I enjoy going up to my land and cutting and chopping wood for the winter. But you seem soft...and I don't believe there's any world in which you actually have the money to do the things you claim or that you're retired. You sound too much like a child.

Please, someone...SOMEONE explain to me why we're POSSIBLY looking down on someone who does honest work? Y'all are the biggest hypocrites I know. Not to mention, the TWO people I know who do work as snowplow drivers, they own their own businesses. My Neighbor...amazing dude, he has an excavating business and owns 40 acres of Land that's probably worth ~20-25M. Long-time Family friend(distant family by marriage actually). I grew up with his kids, he works hard. And he plows snow in the winter when it snows. And then another who has a roofing business, a former B1G Wrestler who also does very well. But lets just say he works for the City and that's his Primary job. When did the right get so condescending about a good job that's absolutely necessary? This is bizarre and honestly something I'd expect from a... moron College kid who has a trust fund and is studying art History.

Not a good place? Where did he say Iowa is "not a good place"? I must have missed that. Can you quote that for me? All I saw was him saying it wasn't a good fit, which of course is entirely different since it isn't a qualitative judgment as "not a good place" is. If he said Iowa isn't a good place, then I'll agree he badmouthed them. I also missed where he said it wasn't a good place for him "as . . . a Christian". I'd agree it was harsh if he said Iowa isn't a good place for Christians. But all I saw is him saying it wasn't a good fit for his own faith journey, which is of course personal to Bo. The fact that Bo doesn't think Iowa is a good fit in more ways than one doesn't mean he's taking shots at Iowa. It just means there's a lack of fit on multiple levels. None of it judges Iowa in any way. No more than he previously found (implicitly) that every other program besides Iowa wasn't the right fit, since Iowa was. Come on Vak. If you find it necessary to twist the words of an 18 year old kid to make the case that he's badmouthing Iowa, then that should tell you his actual words don't get you there. Maybe that should be the point where you pause to say, hmmm, maybe this is just grapes at the kid's expense. You want to complain about his pop, I'll give you some sympathy, but you can't possibly think that Bo himself is out there taking shots at Iowa.

Agreed. That's a pretty damning statement by Bo that could dissuade recruits for years. Many probably now believe Iowa isn't a good place for christians, aspiring Olympic champs, good people, etc solely because of his decommitment statement. Uncle Chael did go over the top but that's his shtick. He's not totally wrong imo tho.

#Statesman

Trumps "approval rating"!? If Trump were to "easily" pull support for Israel - we'd be looking at the first very near zero rating ever. The Orange Liar put himself between a rock and a uranium place. Putin played him, N'yahoo played him, and even the war hawks in our military played him (and his dope appointee Hegseth.) Trump had a full chessboard in front of him, but he didn't know how to play. It was a bad choice for him to fake it. As said earlier... Trump's nearly 80 year old mush brain really put the US in a bad spot. I'm hoping for the best. We will see soon enough.

Wasn't Carter Starocci the self proclaimed highed paid wrestler? Not saying it isn't true, but where's the evidence that there's some sort of racism at play with the NIL deals? Anecdotally, my buddy worked at Ohio State's collective, and I got a peak at the football spreadsheet. It was absurd with the numbers listed, but didn't look to be any discrimination going on with the names I saw.