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Yes...hopefully...for as much as I have disdain for the Man, I don't want to see people losing their homes, their jobs. I'd GENUINELY rather not see waiting lists for my rental properties while people live in their cars, even with big MAGA stickers. Or people having to go back to work at 70. I do not like POTUS, I love this Country and don't want to see it put through hell.

Jesus Christ Jimmy...you REALLY think the OTHER Country pays import taxes? That is just...staggeringly stupid. But, lets operate under that premise. Then we're paying on ALL the Countries putting tariffs on us then, right?

I see you.

No one has used basic since 2012. I call shenanigans.

Of course... it wasn't the boon of an entire new sector in which the United States was leading the world...it was....Govt spending. LOL...sure.

Who’s taller? The GDP growth you speak of was gov’t spending.

Not off to a good start....

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Oh...was it? You do realize I'm not the one who is asking ChatGTP or...whatever. This isn't my thread. Keep arguing how..."negligible" Smoot-Hawley was though.

This would work better if you responded PRIOR to me posting the Secretary of Commerce saying the same thing that...'lil Jimmy.

Well...we rectified that now, haven't we? I really hated the GDP growth, inflation finally coming down after Covid and the bull markets as the US was leading the world in innovation once again with AI and the GPUs. It's funny, all the "Kaepernick hates America" people...they sure don't seem to think highly of America, do they?

It was in jest. Does Al claim that Fordney-McCumber was the real cause of the depression, as @scourge165 does?

He was amazing in all Wrestling! I THOUGHT it was Ramos(Iowa) who spent 7th and 8th grade in Minnesota to Wrestle. He bumped up to 112 as a Soph an still won it. I remember talking to the AV coach about him and asked 'how did he lose,' and they said..."we asked ourselves the same thing."

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You mean the tariffs where the US gave huge loans to Europe in order to buy from American agriculture which led to the league of Nations meeting, the over-production of agriculture and eventually to what Hoover asked for? Targeted tariffs to protect agriculture? And after saying Smoot-Hawley had a "negligible" effect on the crash and depression, I honestly don't know if you're serious in asking who "AI Steelman" is?

The entire economy is built on the psychological. As much then as it is now. At LEAST then you could exchange that dollar for Gold. Now, Fiat currency. That dollar has value for ONE reason. We agree and believe it does. -The run on the banks. That was psychological. By open tomorrow, we're going to be down ~20% in 3 days trading days. That's taking us back to 2021 levels and it has not been ONE WEEK since he has announced the tariffs. Not a single week. What causes the quakes?

I know a lot of gym light inspectors who dress like that

That’s right, i forgot that. He was amazing in youth wrestling.

C'mon now does this guy look like a Nit or a Cowboy?

Yes, I understand it still had to go through the Senate and then Hoover had to sign it with...over 1000 economists pleading with him not to, but when you indicate you're going to start a trade war...that starts uncertainty. This also comes just...maybe 2 years after the League of Nations(which famously we pushed to create under Wilson and then never joined) met specifically on the topic of tariffs and free trade...which we'd been working toward through the 1920s. Those are the big ones...and China is actually 54%. Collectively tariffs are SET to be higher now than they were at anytime since the the teens...maybe 1920 at just under 25% on all imports coming into the Country. Japan, South Korea, we're hitting EVERYONE(but Russia). Taiwan got 32%...though they exempted semiconductors for now, though they've said those are coming(among other industry). That's the industry that had thrived the most and is arguably the most important to the future Economy. No, that tracks with the actual signing just as we haven't seen an IMMEDIATE jump in unemployment in (and they didn't keep track of unemployment prior to the crash, it's more of an approximation by the BLS). But I'm not saying it "tracks with May of 1929." I'm saying from the time they end up signing it. They mostly used the participation rate, but...sure. In EVERY example I've spoken about the tariffs, I've pointed THIS sequence of events; 1-US Congress passes Tariffs 2-Markets tank 3-Hoover signs Smoot-Hawley into Law 4-There's a MASSIVE spike in unemployment and we're in the throes of a recession that would BECOME the great depression within a 18 months. Go from Low to SUPER low unemployment, that sequence has not changed. That IS how it played out. That's OBVIOUSLY not the full totality of it, but people have already complained about my "essays." And I've gone through this...several times. Catalyst-Tarrifs That sets off the market, that resets a decade of growing global commerce and lowering tariffs moving toward free trade, that leads to a run on the banks and everything else. Right. Which is why when I've pointed out unemployment, AGAIN, I've used from when Hoover signed it....every time. Yes. From the time Hoover actually signed it. Going back to what I believe was the catalyst. I also believe we were at over 7B in exports and it dropped about 65% over the next 3 years.

Let's set the record straight. Skutt Catholic poached him from grade school before Iowa poached him from Skutt before Penn State poached him from Iowa before Oklahoma State poached him from Penn State before Penn State poached him from Oklahoma State. Oh, and his wife poached him from his mother.

Who’s Al Steelman? How many depressions did the Fordney-McCumber tariffs cause?

If it's true, my guess is it's to continue competing. He's been clear that he never retired. I remember he gave an interview a couple months ago (here?) where he was self-critical of how he'd left PSU, sort of leaving coach Cody hanging about going on overseas trip as the Olympic alternate. Said it was on him, and that he'd since patched it up. Didn't sound like he burned any bridges there. I wouldn't be very surprised if he left Ok State in any event. I think it was the same interview where he was surprisingly open about not being particularly committed to OSU. It isn't like he was looking for assistant gigs, went interviewing around, and chose OSU. It was more that his buddy Taylor got the head coaching gig just before the season started, needed to fill out his staff on short notice, and asked Gilman. It gave me the sense that he agreed more to help out Taylor than because he really wanted to move on. I suppose he could be coaching at PSU/NLWC too, if he decided OSU wasn't for him. But whatever's going on, I'm guessing it's less drama-filled than people will make it out to be.

The tallest midget.