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I have no dog in this discussion, but we have to address variables where they exist. Cops are, as we have seen all too often, oftentimes beholden to a locally dictated agenda set by institutional and leadership/management goals. Each institution of local law enforcement is beholden to the whims of the local decision makers. There are good ones, greedy ones, lazy ones, amazing ones, and corrupt ones, but we have no idea what local politics are regarding policing or this particular “sting”. Unless anybody can get the police chief on the horn. If he’s hiding on this board that would be tremendous.
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Many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. - quote by someone. Not sure who
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Anyone hear something crazy recently?
HokieDave87 replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
The illegal part, specifically online or on the street. You mentioned two avenues that are way safer than doing it on the street or some sketchy website. I assume you'd find a high percentage of people underage, doing it for drug money, or legitimately trafficked. I find this morally wrong. OnlyFans, a stripper soliciting a high roller, or other instances are what they are but if it's consenting adults it is none of my business. This part is speculation but I also don't see a sting operation being set up on a website that is linking up of age hookers and johns. Usually cops will only use resources if there's tax money involved (ie; a seedy strip club) or a bigger problem where the operation is tied to some of the more negative scenarios than consenting adults. I'm sure there is a reason they targeted that website. -
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Hammerlock3 replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
i have to save 10 for unrepentant murderers of babies with down syndrome and creed fans. -
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JimmySpeaks replied to red viking's topic in Non Wrestling Topics
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I have never seen a better description of this board anywhere ever.
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Short of mind reading jedi powers, how can you make an assertion like that?
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Alvarez can’t have another year…can he ?
1032004 replied to Cornell Kevin's topic in College Wrestling
Do Tri’s count as one date? If not, it looks like his last match in 2022-2023 (Bloomsburg) was only the team’s 8th date, and he competed in 7 of them. Still doesn’t meet the stated requirements, but close… -
You just made a great argument for decriminalizing prostitution. If somebody went to a prostitute in the system you are describing, then I'd agree with your earlier post that they did nothing morally wrong. That is definitely not Kyle Snyder. He knows what he is doing directly supports trafficking, and he doesn't care. So while I don't care who he has sex with or whether he pays for it, I do think it's wrong he's illegally hiring women from a disgustingly corrupt practice that traffics women.
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happyvalet replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
look up the definition of "rule" ... here, i'll do it for you. from Webster: 1 a: a prescribed guide for conduct or action I guess you're the idiot if you don't understand giving a group of people a directive for how to conduct themselves can be called a rule -
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scourge165 replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
Look up the word Facetious for me there bud. It'll be your word for the day. I'm also not sure where I made up "rules" for everyone, but...sure, lets treat it as though I set up a "rule." See above. Prior to this...I wasn't calling you an idiot, simply pointing out what the consensus seemed to be. I am starting to see the perspective of the rest of the board however. -
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scourge165 replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
I know, I was just commenting on the post you shared. -
Anyone hear something crazy recently?
scourge165 replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
I don't know... look at OF girls. Also...what about Vegas? Is it the doing it illegally that you find it hard to believe or is it just the act? I think a lot of people who will make money the "easy" way. Maybe they will say, 'hey, I made a G today,' and you'd say, 'but you made it in a sleazy way.' That's just the way it is. We gotta start making changes! Seriously though, of course...a lot of people will exploit others as well. That's also an easy way to make money I guess. I'm skeptical that sex trafficking is as prevalent as some are inferring, but...it kinda seems like the best solution to this and most realistic would be just to legalize it. I really can't imagine a more...tortured life than being forced into prostitution, but it does seem to me that Bunny Ranch in Vegas...those ARE consenting adults. How sane they are, that seems relative. -
That's fine. Not looking to argue. But consider doing your homework or read the studies I linked. What you think you know, may not match very well with the reality of the situation.
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I suppose I should keep my mind open that there might be a HUUUGE Trump library someday, big enough to park the old restored Boeing that saved taxpayers billions. But I still believe he’s just trying to put more pressure on Boeing to deliver the promised AF1 before his term is up. I’ll bet they stalled work on AF1 last fall when he won.
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Anyone hear something crazy recently?
happyvalet replied to Hammerlock3's topic in College Wrestling
it's funny that the people who are insulting me are doing it without any supporting reasoning painful for me to be called an idiot by the guy who immediately violates the rule he just set out for everyone -
There's a lot of data on my "very small percentage" comment. One of the more reputable studies was run by the NIH. For prostitutes who were 18 or older, 4.6% reported being "coerced, threatened, pressured, misled, tricked, or physically forced into trading sex." The number goes up to 21% for prostitutes under 18. Study here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7305278/. There's also a number of studies that have found that since Congress passed the wildly regressive FOSTA-SESTA laws, these coerced/underage prostitutes are now working the streets, and aren't advertising online (See e.g. NIJ study here: https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/unconventional-wisdom-research-shakes-assumptions-about-sex-trafficking-clues). The "good news", I guess, is that the online ads have cleaned up, but the bad news is that underage sex traffickers are now much harder to catch, and victims harder to save. As for "how it's possible to minimize trafficking," see my other posts. First you need to understand what's included in "trafficking" before you have this conversation. It isn't just "people being taken against their will," which is a real problem, but rare (see above). Rather, "trafficking" is often used to include escorts traveling for work in conjunction with others -- which of course is virtually *all* escorts. It's a term used to demonize, when it's actually just describing virtually the entire sex industry, in which the vast majority are participating voluntarily. Although there's a lot of data on this, there's also a lot of bad data. You need to look at actual reputable peer-reviewed journals, not advocacy groups or people trying to sell stuff. For example, your website above is published by a company that sells software to police departments looking to crack down on prostitution (see https://deliverfund.org/about/). Take a wild guess what financial incentive is? If you really care about the subject, I suggest you do some homework about how best to destigmatize the women who *want* to be in that industry, and how best to identify and help those who are underage or otherwise *not* there voluntarily. Once you do that, you'll understand where my posts are coming from.