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That story was so confusing… the initial public misinformation, footage, and fact he survived are different…

Looking at this, not from trying to figure out why, because I'll get to that, but who and how. If you look at the layout of where it happened, as best as anyone can determine now, there was a clear line of sight from where they think the shooter was. 200 yards straight down from a several story building, into a courtyard that was probably recessed another 20 feet. This wasn't some amateur like the guy who took a shot at Trump. I think that the fact there was one shot says that. Whoever it was, definitely a pro. You'd need to be highly trained to make that shot. I don't think this was a civilian at all. It just doesn't fit the profile. Why can't they find them or what happened? It seems like whoever did it had it well rehearsed, because they left no evidence behind, no gun or shell casings anyone is aware of. I'll go out on a limb and say it's possible they even had a plan to direct attention towards the other two suspects who got detained. Whoever it was who did it, I don't think they were in it for attention or anything strictly political. Nobody would want to claim responsibility, but I don't think that doing this is about politics strictly. It just seems very strange. They worked alone, evaded being caught, and with that known, I don't think they would leave much of a trail to follow. Even the pictures and video of somebody on the roof, you can't really see anything. So if that was even the person, they can't even get a description. No height, weight, etc. Just looking at it, this feels professional. If it was political only or out of rage, I think somebody would have been clouded by anger, had lapses in judgement, made mistakes, etc. Somebody wanted this guy dead for some reason. It just seems too cold, too calculated to have been revenge or something like that. Looking at recent political assassinations, like Minnesota, they caught the guy pretty quickly. The guy was looney tunes, left evidence, made mistakes, etc. This was in front of a few thousand people in broad daylight, and they didn't catch the shooter? If the FBI and Utah police are on top of things, they should be looking at airports, bus terminals, any footage of people leaving by car, tracking down license plates, etc. Whoever did it, they would want to put serious distance between the scene and themselves as quickly as possible. So I guess we'll see.

So you won't denounce those murders either? As long as I kill a liberal and it isn't in front of a crowd, it no big deal? Charlie was just an entertainer that lied all the time and made living trolling liberals. Hortman did real work.

Appreciate your honesty that you believe that dead children are worth it.

Unfortunately, Charlie is burning in hell, even though the assassination itself was also evil.

The context of a famous person shot in a huge public crowd where everyone knows it is for his ideas is different than the sad story of two people most have never heard of… Kirk was news most days...

I'm not sure how this works in your favor. A deranged leftist attacked a corrupt man. How is this an argument in your favor?

Isn't that what the far right said about Paul Pelosi being attacked in his home? Don't like it much when it's turned around do you?

The entire ideology the left bases their agenda on is dismantled with little more and a few minutes of analysis. Charlie destroyed the lies of the left so effortlessly.

Are you going to lead the resistance?

Yes

The best use of a leftist is to share their views and agenda. People are rejecting those views and agenda and it's guys like Charlie drawing attention to who they are in their own words that infuriates them. Let Trip be and let him show who he is and what he's all about.

There are literally dozens of studies showing the effectiveness of the covid vaccine, especially against hospitalization and death, but even against infection as well prior to Omicron. Edit: sorry read the thread backwards, I thought you were talking about the Covid vax.

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The mind of a TDS sufferer for some reason always ends up focused on gay sex. It's quite strange but not surprising.

Hall went back to the well and brought in another Penn St career backup this year too - David Evans; he won't be as good as BearClaw but more people will know his name in March than do now I suspect

I just was reading something about this, because it's going to dominate news for the next few days, and the author made a point. We don't know why this happened. What if he was killed for some extremely trivial reason? Like he cut somebody off in traffic or something else that pissed off some random psycho who got fed up enough? When Frank Cali got shot and killed outside of his house a few years ago, everyone was sure it was the beginning of a Mafia war and that was why he got killed. Except it turned out to be some crazy QAnon believer who thought Cali was part of the deep state and had to die. It made absolutely no sense. So before we jump to conclusions about who killed who, just consider that this could have been somebody who didn't care about politics and thought Kirk was a lizard person who had to go.

How dare I be indifferent over somebody being killed.

Antrell was just that small. he wasn't staying 4lbs underweight the entire season 'in case' and there was no 'in case'. PRobb was fine.

@BobDole ax Trip.

The "debate people much younger than him" issue is relevant. Generally speaking, a college campus is a place where a multitude of ideas and perspectives are encouraged and exchanged. A place for young adults to question everything and anything. A high school, on the other hand, is a completely different place. HS children are not young adults. 30-somethings visiting high schools to push a political agenda on children should never be approved.

They couldn't hurt.