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Yeah...I NEVER heard anything from Bartlett about Starocci being a rapist. The bullying, I still haven't heard about that, but I don't spend much time on Wrestling Twitter. I don't know what you want from me here, I feel like the only reasonable thing to do at this point is reserving judgement because I hadn't heard anything about the sexual assault(though more likely believing the girls). I don't believe Bartlett said anything about sexual assault and if he did, I missed it. I was defending "them" when you were talking about Gillman. What are you looking for here from me?

Of course not. Maybe OSU, Okie State, ASU...PERHAPS, the Cali Talent. Michigan, Illinios, Minnesota and MAYBE Wisconsin... they'd all have to really have some big money donors get invested in the program. Basically a B1G school or a few others. NC State, Va Tech are a couple others. But "replicate it?" MAYBE Ohio State.

I guess the 5th title should be void but if I was making the rules I'd take away the first one...

If there's any evidence that the staff knew about it, I want them to be ineligible from the post-season for at least 1 year and I want all wins as a team vacated and... I don't know if you can vacate Starocci's Indvidual title, but IF it's true, he should go to jail. I just read about it. The "Grooming," I think that's tossed around way too easily. 23, 18... But rape is rape. If Starocci raped a girl, there are others and there's ANY evidence the staff knew, that's what I want done. And maybe PART of that is because I do respect PSU, because Cael is Cael and because they represent the Wrestling community so much, but...this is a BIG deal, especially if more victims come forward. There is no indication the staff DID know(beyond the theft and they couldn't prove that)...but if there anything there, that's what I want.

advocating the burning of white biz seems pretty racist perhaps even worse than loving the smell of it

how many times did you attack trump during the last 4 years? or bush or reagan

Another thing. The alleged theft of a watch. An expensive one. It wasn’t on camera. What kind of watch thief steals something as big as a watch and simply just doesn’t put it in his pocket and walk out of the room. #exoneratehim

Clearly he's pro 2x cheater

Bosh got that Gluck gluck. Didn’t know who he was before this lol

Soon = 1-2 years.

Prob should start deleting clips of Brooks beating Buchanan. Bro pissed hot twice in a year.

Maryland roots.

Brooks x 2?

Aaaaah tks

I'm certainly not. I'm only curious who isn't a runner up?

He’s full of *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*. Black and brown will be the next big clash. Mark it down

I think he is referencing him saying, “Not retired” while dodging USADA

Jan 6 is over too isn’t it?

Him having cancer that they hid from us ( along with him being too senile to hold office) is really classy isn’t it ? I think I’m fine compared to Libtardos

What did Gilman write ? Can’t keep up

Any two of these would be nothing. Administration is not going to only look at two of them. They are going to look at all the facts no matter the context. And while we all agree with you regarding Gilman's likely intent (or lack thereof)... again, he wrote it in a public space which is literally the dumbest thing ever now that the heat is turned up.

I never mentioned Sanderson. I mentioned David Carr being disparaged for zero reason.

The intro to the story broke 3 weeks ago bro. Beau posted a lot of stubs on bwi and said I’ll talk soon. I remember a lot more peeps defending them at that time vs now. as much as this story is crazy and I’m a pretty self admitted not a psu fan. None of this is good for wrestling as a whole. Kids don’t want to hear about hazing bullying and oil checking in the room with your teammates. Parents don’t want to put kids in a sport with the same. Psu fans saying it’s cool 25 years ago some duche bag peed on me in the shower or locker room and nonsense like that Is ok…. Is not what’s good for the sport either.

It may be a "fact," but... I don't think Gillman belongs in this group. I don't care at all about the Gillman story. Snyder was dirty and a hypocrite. Starocci... sounds like he could be a felon who has to talk to his neighbors before moving in. Brooks is just a cheat and will forever be known as a cheat...which is a shame and weird as he's like 5'7 and seemed perfectly suited for 86KG.