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feeling more like a buckeye every minute

they picked a weight so the dual can start and end strong

"stand up comedy is hard, you have to start strong and end strong...you can't be like pancakes and be great at first and then suck" -mitch hedburg

sense i need to get my gambling street cred back....i'd call that a hedge as opposed to a win win.

yes you are correct, sorry vig not moneyline

yeah good point thats dumb, may be in a caviat where both teams get to pick a guy to void the bet if someone doesn't wrestle.

if penn state wins by 22 its a tie, less than that the person who bet on michigan wins, more than that the person who bet on penn state.

Line is 22, the moneyline is -120 and -110 but I think thats just the house working in their edge, so it'd be even money on the line.

the main thing i garnered was that I don't want LJB to come back ever...

i never heard of anything I'd consider controversial. Not everyone likes him, and he had a lot of hype as a coach despite having to bounce around a lot, but i've never heard his character brought into question.

Dakes argument, which isn't a rationally good one, is that his story is way better. The Dake movie would be way more interesting than the Cael movie, because Cael doesn't really have an arc, he's like Ray in those horrible star wars sequels. Does this have anything to do with what we think we are talking about no? Do people like to organize facts into stories, yes.

In my experience people with hair like that need a haircut/personality...

i definitely could but they don't piss me off that much for some reason.

Another feather in his cap is the way cael wrestled. Dake was capable of boring matches his whole career.

mind fart.

Cael didn't wrestle scrubs either. Eggum was world silver not long after, and couldn't make the finals again cause he wrestled Cael in the semis, vertus jones was a 2 time finalist (once before cael beat him) who gets too little respect cause he got killled both times, and Trenge was a multiple finalist and always one of the first mentioned for best no timer.

I think fix is gonna have a strong claim pretty soon

I think its a lot more likely that they'd stay where they were. Which is fairly obvious, I'm saying a lot less than you might think i'm trying to.

I guess I'm sneaking around the idea that Iowa has an image problem which i don't like, also PSU's massive pull is not good for wrestling.

no but that goes to my point, if PSU wanted franek or caliendo you think they had no shot cause of the mystique around iowa?

This is basically what I was getting at, I can see where me saying the have no selling points was clumsy

less handfighty, very low to the mat, they like to try and trick people down to their level with the threat of a double leg or other outside shot, once they are down thereon a knee or something that hit a lot of overtie shucks. In general they are a little too patient but very tactical.

well that would be a meaningless excercise. Thats kind of the one thing I couldn't do for Michigan, give them both lewan and griffin. One is possible not both.

its deceptively hard to not lapse into purely realistic picks... I will say that I would be more surprised by a PSU shut out than a Michigan victory. However if Michigan drops the first two matches I'm gonna be putting on my PSU hat and cheering for it.

I'm gonna pick it as generously as I possibly can for Michigan... DeAugustino dec Davis (3-0) Ragusin dec Nagao (6-0) Bartlett Dec Lemley (6-3) Gomez Maj Kasak (10-3) Lewan dec Haines (13-3) (in keeping with the super michigan optimism I decided to give them 157 or 174) Amine dec Mesenbrink (16-3) Starocci dec Griffin (16-6) Truax dec Bullock (16-9) Brooks maj Striggow (16-13) Davison dec Kerk (19-13) Ok so, with my finger on the scale at every weight in michigans favor......I'm telling you there's a chance....