Cornell Kevin

You cannot possibly compare Ben Askren junior/senior years to his freshman/sophomore years! Or Askren’s junior/senior years to Pendleton’s junior/senior years for that matter….OR Pendlton’s Freshman/sophomore years with Askren’s Freshman/sophomore years because there is no comparison!!! Askren Fresh/soph (2nd/2nd) Pendleton Fresh/soph (DNP/3rd) Someone in this thread is suggesting that Askren didn’t jump levels from his first two years to his second? he had two of the most dominating years back to back that we have ever seen. Let’s not pretend that the Askren that beat Herbert 14-2 is the Askren Pendleton faced, come on!! The Askren that won 87 straight matches including bumping up a weight to take out Kish who was ranked #1 at the time at the weight above. Two Hodge Trophies, 87 in a row 87-0…54 pins, 11 techs, 12 majors, 2 fft and only 8 decisions. He had 79 bonus wins in 87 attempts 90.8% In back to back years he had the 4th and 5th most dominant season ever Cael Sr. 5.500 Zain JR. 5.357 Neal Sr. 5.341 Askren Sr. 5.333 Askren Jr. 5.311 You can talk about one freestyle match all you want but when it came to the 06 and 07 Askren, he was unstoppable at Folkstyle. Askren did beat Pendleton once even as an underclassmen. The numbers I just threw at you were no where near what Ben did as a fresh and soph. You cannot convince me that Ben didn’t take an enormous leap after Pendleton graduated. Peak JR/SR Askren years > Peak JR/SR Pendleton years when he beat FR/SOPH Askren. Just the same FR/SOPH Askren > FR/SOPH Pendleton OR Career Askren (2-2-1-1)94 falls > Career Pendleton (DNP-3-1-1) At the very least you cannot suggest that Pendleton above Askren based on the matches Peak Pendleton had vs Young Askren.

I thought Carr got screwed in the semis in a # of ways. - What was with the caution 1 with the pushout? Carr was in no position to dictate where he or his opponent went . He simply got driven out of bounds…hence a pushout. To give a caution 1 there ? - Then came the chest wrap. Carr stops his momentum, never touches his butt to ground and exposed Japan: Head official awards 2 for Carr 0 Japan (correct call) white paddled, Japan 2pts Carr gets nothing ..horrible . So Carr goes down 6-0 when the score really should have been 3-2 Japan. Carr gets two takedowns and on BOTH, Official blows action dead early as Carr is locking up a lace both times. Carr is on top and attempts what looks to be a trap arm tilt/gut, and exposes himself but ends up back on top. Rules say that when attempting a gut, it’s a point for the bottom guy if he’s able to hold you on your back for five seconds while you’re attempting a gut. Clearly that wasn’t the case but they just gave Japan two points for an exposure and then current one point for reversal. 8-5 now and then Carr with another takedpwn 8-7 he is down with 9 sec left. Carr gets in again and again and is taking him down as time expires..not in time. Challenge brick.. nice to see that his corner knows what that brick is for .. too little too late on that…loses challenge so final 9-7. Carr was the better wrestler I thought. I think for him to only lose by 1 (well before lost challenge) was unreal considering all the shinanigans going on with calls not in his favor.

He just turned 26 last month

This years U23 world team will be composed of 7 Nittany Lion Wreslters. 57KG LUKE LILLEDAHL Penn St 61KG JAX FORREST Okla St 65KG MARCUS BLAZE Penn St 70KG PJ DUKE Penn St 74KG M. MESENBRINK Penn St 79KG LEVI HAINES Penn St 86KG ROCCO WELSH Penn St 92KG JOSH BARR Penn St 97KG KOUEKABAKILAHO GV 125KG D. HERRERA Iowa St • PJ Duke, 18 years of age, will be competing in the trifecta this year. He is on and competing in U20, U23, and Senior World Championships. While Amit Elor has done this exact trifecta in back to back years, winning 6 golds, no American male has ever attempted this. Americans pulling multi-duty: -PJ Duke 70kg; U20…U23….Sr - Marcus Blaze; U20 61kg…U23 65kg -Levi Haines 79kg; U23…..Sr. (Forrest 61kg; U23, maybe Sr) • Mitchell Mesenbrink, who has a U20 Gold & Silver, will be looking to improve on his U23 Bronze medal from last year. • Luke Lilledahl has been in 4 consecutive world age level finals. Luke has gone 2024 U20 Gold 2023 U20 Silver 2022 U17 Gold 2021 U17 Silver Luke Lilledahl now stands in attempt to becoming the 1st and only American male to win Gold in U17/U20/U23 World championships. If he does not pull off the Gold this year at U23s..Both him and Meyer Shapiro will still have 3 years left of U23 eligibility to accomplish this. • 7/10 U23 National team members are on our American Senior National team… -#2 Lilledahl 57kg -#1/2 Forrest 61kg -#3 Blaze 65kg -#1 Duke 70kg -#2 Mesenbrink 74kg -#1 Haines 79kg -#2 Barr 92kg • This teams past age level world teams and results -Lilledahl 2024 U20 Gold 2023 U20 Silver 2022 U17 Gold 2021 U17 Silver -Forrest 2022 U17 Silver -Blaze 2023 U17 Gold 2024 U20 Bronze -Duke 2024 U20 Bronze -Mesenbrink 2022 U20 Silver 2023 U20 Gold 2024 U23 Bronze -Haines 2021 U17 7th -Barr 2024 U20 Silver

My bad must have auto corrected on phone, done that a few times..sneaky sneaky phone

USA Wrestling should make this announcement by tomorrow (Friday) based on when it has been announced in the past vs when decisions had to be in. Usually has been decisions by senior national team due on a Monday with announcement following that Friday. This way they have time to ask #2, 3 or even 4 now in the pecking order. I think we will see: 57kg LL - would attempt to become the first american male wrestler to win gold in all 3 U17-U20-U23 age levels. If Penn St decides not to send guys to U23 due to it being during start of college season, then Nico Provo next up. 61kg Jax Forrest - kid seems to want to wrestle in everything. He is entered in to the ranking series with only a couple of days between his series with Vito and that. Speaking of which, this delay makes this decision much more difficult as he clearly does not know if he made the senior team yet. If he turns down I think Blaze will too in which it will go to Nic Bouzakis. 65kg Vince Cornella- doubt Blaze takes this, he likely focuses on U20s. Cornella did make a U20 team a few years back taking 5th. 70kg PJ Duke - he had shown a strong desire to do all 3 we will see if Penn St coaches give him the . If he is a no then Josh Edmond gets the nod 74kg MM -took a bronze last year, lost to the guy Japan had slotted in their senior team this year. He may be a little beat up now but U23s almost 4 full months away. 79kg Dean Hamiti- I don’t see Levi accepting this with him being on senior team and his senior season coming up. I don’t picture Hamiti not taking the spot, why would he not? If not him than Simon Ruiz will. 86kg Rocco Welsh is the guy 92kg Barr - if Penn St sends guys then Barr will be there. It not then Aeoden Sinclair will go. 97kg Grand Valley kid with very long name is the guy 125- Daniel Herrera is the guy

This shows that at least some rules are still set in place and effective when additional year(s) of eligibility are in question. No way Alvarez qualified for a medical in either of those two years Let’s slam the door on the AJ Ferrari has 3 years left now because there is no logical explanation of it being more than 2. Curious to see what the ruling will be with Ono’s eligibility. As much as I don’t like to see Penn St with yet another hammer at their disposal, I do prefer to not see him in a Japan singlet at 61kg vs any of our Americans. Although I do hear that the rep Japan has in Ono’s place this year on their world team is also a beast. Would love to put all this 6-8 year crap to rest. We are now coming to an end of having wrestlers participating in 5 NCAA tournaments (due to 2021 not counting against eligibility). Let’s get back to the good o’le days of 4 seasons in 5 years (outside of IVY 4/4 unless Grey shirt). So much easier to keep track of.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, we are on it!

For U23 it had always been Senior National team members had first dibs on the spot, followed by the U23 champion. This year it was changed in adding the 4th in line for seniors at the weight prior to U23 National Champ. Couple of notes: - Seems obvious but many have asked.:If Jax passes on taking the U23 spot, No..Marcus Blaze cannot accept both the 61kg and 65kg spots for U23. One or the other or neither. -All signs point to Marcus not taking either spot and focusing on winning a U20 World Gold Medal. Blaze earned a bronze last year losing to eventual U20 Gold medalist, and senior champion Ono in the semis 7-2. Rumorville has echoed that the Penn St staff prefers he does focus solely on the U20 Worlds and passes on both U23 spots. -If this is in fact true in regards to the coaches preference..it could be sign for things to come. I am very curious on which NLWC guys accept their U23 dibs on their weights. U23 Worlds runs much later than U20 and even senior worlds -U20s August 20th-24th -Senior’s September 13th-18th -U23’s October 22nd-26th -First official day of NCAA wrestling practice is October 10th, with the first day of competition being November 1st. If they prefer that Blaze does not do U23, it could very well hint that he will be starting at 133 as a true freshman while Ono red shirts. PJ Duke has showed a great interest in competing in all 3 world championships. When asked yesterday on his flo interview about this, he said it had to be discussed with his coaches and family, however he did not rule it out. Furthermore, Kozalk asked him if he would possibly be going to the ranking series coming up. Duke responded that he most likely would not be, and he would rather wrestle in another world championships than do the ranking series as he still hunting for his first world gold medal. So will be interesting to see which of the NLWC accept the U23 spots. MM did last year earning a bronze. Maybe the Penn State coaches prefer just the two freshman pass on it, especially since they’re already competing another world championships. Or maybe they let them decide and rumorville is BS. if they do prefer they pass it obviously isn’t because they don’t want them missing the week of practice… I’m sure it would be more so a concern that they’re peeking you around and because of that won’t be at their best come March whether it be to the physical or mental toll it takes.

Can add Duke to: “lost first match and won series”

And even two more things joke or not, I am answering same way..it was based on bad info. You naming one guy, doesn’t constitute “the Cornell” and their rhetoric. So much comes out of his mouth especially, at times I don’t think the fan base wants to claim him but what can you do? I would hope nobody get worked up about my response. Just was setting the record straight on a topic that has completely gone to a false narrative. Thats all. Don’t let it bother you, it didn’t bother him.

Yeah you are right i didnt know they went to an out of state tournament start of year. Doesnt change anything I said either. Just means that he wrestled even that much more above his weight.

I can appreciate that, my 3 year old acts the same way when he is wrong.

He wrestled 170 this HS season just to try and get better competition, but could have gone 160 if he had needed to. I don’t recall him ever wrestling 175, I know that’s not a weight in NY. Turns out that it didn’t matter much what weight he went as even for him to wrestle 170 this year…a weight much higher than his walk around weight..he went 46-0 with 35 falls 9 tech falls and 2 ffts. Not one of his matches even made it to the half way point of the 2nd period. Stud!

Duke is 5’6” and has been that height for quite sometime.’Indont see him getting that much bigger. Only time will tell.