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This weekend. Interesting matchup at 174lb Donnel Washington (I) and Rocky Jordan (C). Last time they met was in 2019! 4-3 Washington. How time flies. I kind of lost where Rocky ended up , but looks like he is doing ok at 174lb.

I never said the decision was to be made by 15-18 year olds. Nice troll job thought. lol

So classing system doesn’t help you guys. And I’m sure there are others. This is what I mean. There are so many different outliers,examples, for each side of the argument that really the only way to see ,would be to change to a classed individual system ,and let it work through for a couple of years, and then compare, apples to apples. And to me there in lies a problem. If The 2 or 3 year experiment was not solving all the arguments ,that was said it would, or create the results of a pro classed system, I know that it would never go back to one class, regardless.

A lot of banter back and forth on this subject. For several years. I think the kids that want to do well will continue no matter if one or more classes. And the emphasis now is more towards how he kids do in the big national tournaments around the country for the coaches to evaluate,and not so much state run tournaments. But yes ,kids slip thru the cracks in any scenario of classes. If you Surveyed the wrestlers I’m guessing they prefer as is , stay one class. It really is a sight to see if you’ve never been to the Indiana state finals.

The 4 semi states around indiana concluded Saturday. Now on to the BIG show in Indianapolis starting Friday night for one round, then finishes Saturday,the next day. Ther is usually a lot of college coaches roaming the corridors of Bankers life stadium on Saturday. This state tournament started 3 Saturdays ago as an all inclusive event. Meaning every wrestler who is their teams starter , 14 weight classes, can participate. Records, school size ,have no bearing whatsoever ,on who gets to be in the single class tournament. Heck even if you’re not a starter you could wrestle, if you make weight. Each school gets 14 slots, 1 for each weight class.

And if he lost?

Nice, congratulations. I was there. So they had tje draw, who’s your guy got?

Man, and we think some of the other BIG teams have had it rough. Clemsen should get the Purple Heart for bravery, taking this job. Hope they keep it going, for the sake of wrestling.

Got it 20-16 Spartans. Bonus points did Indiana in. Good dual.

How did this end up?

I’m in agreement here. If saldate does wrestle I think he avenges his earlier loss to Gilcher at 157.

Ok

So…,,, looks like perineal bottom feeders have risen a notch or two in the BIG. But still not mid tier squads yet. This match will go a long way in determining who may vault into a mid tier team in the conference going forwards. I see this as a lot closer than wrestle stat has it. Michigan winning 8 of 10 contests. Now that’s if everyone wrestles. Can the underdog Hoosier squad beat the odds again? Split the weekend duals and I’ll be happy. As they go to the wolverines on Sunday.

This is where the Lee brothers of penn State, Andrew Howe of Wisconsin, Tsirtsis brothers Jason, northwestern ,Alex, Iowa,Angel Escobedo, Indiana,Lee Minnesota, Humphrey, Ohio State,Mici northwestern, Michigan, Paris, Michigan and others come from.

Notice that I did not say “states”. This is a one(1) class State tournament, in its final two weeks or weekends. This is an all in tournament. “All wrestlers get to wrestle “at the start of the four weekend tournament, starting at local area sectionals , regardless of their season record. Then top 4 placers advance to various local regionals the next Saturday. This Saturday at the 4 semi states, where the top 4 placers from various regionals, will wrestle to get the chance ,to go to Indianapolis the following weekend ,to wrestle for a state championship. Again , the top 4 placers ,in each class ,will advance out of their respective semi states , to the final. So Sectionals, then regionals then the semi states , this Saturday,are one day only affairs. “On consecutive Saturdays.” The state final is Friday night ,one round, then all day ,the next day, Saturday to culminate in an under the lights final match. To determine who is the champion of each weight class for this season. Very simple tournament easy to follow, no 1a, 2a3a4a..,…to follow, just one single class. And great final match under the big lights in Indianapolis to crown the state champion in each weight.

“Wait and see” not “I sit and see” spell correction on I phone

Will be worse this year. I sit and see. It’s not frowned upon in the coaches circles anymore.

I agree with Xmas ,pinto is the real deal.

Not just this weekend,From last weekend to tje big dance.

This is D1 wrestling. It is kosher for the coaches to hold wrestlers. Get over it . The old days and ways are done with. Stop complaining. Maybe this is an experiment, to grow the sport? You know , the two- three page threads on here, on what’s needed to get more fans/ people to take an interest. Coaches are doing their part. I guess it’s just up to us to get over our disappointment s.

Other than academics? Fill me in. Look I’m not trying to start a pissing contest here. The place is hours away from any civilization. Young people like the urban scene.

Good to hear, hope they keep it up, Illinois was a tough dual team 10 years ago. As to why anyone would want to go to university of Illinois, is another thing.

This is D1 wrestling ,now days men. It is a long drawn out season. Dual meets mean nothing ,in the big picture . Purely side exhibition and entertainment. Us fans, supporters need not worry or complain, it’s kosher now in the coaches circles to hold guys to make sure they peak in March. And this also gives friends and families of back ups ,a chance to actually watch their guy in a live match on the big stage. How could this not be entertaining?

So what was the Washington crap after the smith match?

Ok , I’m not sure that it may be a combination, MSU getting better and Illinois being a notch or two down from what they usually are at. But it sure Makes for a competitive match.