Winners Circle

In today's news, T&T and the Hawkeyes are still very desperate to win.

I think it's different for each specific team too. For example, a school like Okie State would probably take Forrest/Bassett because the 'home run hitter' may be enough to push them into 2nd and they may not have a need in their lineup for both Raney's. However, a school like Illinois would probably prefer the Raney's because they'd fill two holes in their lineup as opposed to one.

I heard Okie State for both them and Teemer.

It was more so just a joke about the mountain man look and him going to a school in Colorado. It either went over your head or you're just a joy to be around...

Did he enter the portal?

He looks like a mountain man with that beard and long hair. UNCO seems like a good fit.

Got a link to this call out?

Don't hold back. Let's hear it. You speculated that far, might as well give us the name. From a speculation standpoint.

Elaborating further. 4 out of the top 5 teams this year had multiple transfers in their lineup, with Cornell being the exception (I don't think Ivies can even take transfers).

Like it or not, it's the world we're living in. Get with it or get left behind. Okie State was very much against it in the beginning and saw their results dip. But finally brought in a stud transfer (Olejnik), and liked how that experiment went and now are all in on it. It's part of the deal if you want to win.

Am I mistaken but didn't he have most of his success at 184 a year or two back?

Maybe Mizzou should get some "store-bought transfers" because having 5 of "their own wrestlers" go 0-2 at the dance can't be fun.

Sax was round of 12 at 174. I'd say he's probably a true 174.

First ballot hall of fame response.

As a former NCAA athlete, I know the NCAA doesn't care about the athletes. That's been obvious. But they used to be a stickler on the rules and would throw down some dumb, overkill, punishments.

Not for Zach Tanelli...

Isn't that tampering and illegal? I know that schools are doing it, but if it's common knowledge a school is doing it in a specific instance for a specific athlete couldn't they get busted for that? Or does the NCAA just not care?

Both just made the U17 WTT Freestyle finals (against each other) and both are Super 32 AA's. So I'd say pretty well.

Real good question. I like it. I think I'd take both Raney's over one of Bassett/Forrest because two high placers at NCAAs beats one champ from an NCAA team tournament standpoint. And then if one (or both) of the Raney's wins it that's an added bonus.

Yea the previous staff is still listed on the website. And I'd assume if plans to replace them he'd be working on that sooner rather than later for a recruiting standpoint.

Anyone have any insight as to what the UB staff will look like? Is Vinson keeping the current assistants (Derek Spann, Alan Clothier, and Ben Freeman)? Or is he comprising his own staff?

Best by what metric?

This past season Parco had wins over: Ridge Lovett (2x); who was heavy favorite to win it all season Abas; 2021 AA Swiderski; 2024 AA D'Emilio (major dec.); 2023 AA This past season Williams had wins over: Swiderski; 2024 AA So to say Parco can't win a title, meaning there's no chance, next year is crazy. And to say Willams will make a jump big enough to pass Parco also seems crazy. Could it happen, yes absolutely. But it seems like wishful thinking more than anything.

I think you're on an island by yourself with this thought. A 4x AA vs a guy that went 2-2 at NCAAs this year (including a loss to Quinn Kinner). I understand Williams has a bright future. But, being an Okie State fan, I want to win (or at least get 2nd) now, not later. And I'm not alone there.

Could Teemer and Parco both go to Oklahoma State? Spratley, Hughes, Jamison/Williams (he made 143 last summer), Parco, Teemer, Fish, Hamiti, Plott, Carroll, Doucet. That could be a second place team.