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When and what was the problems they had?

I just feel like should say im under 35 and my entire crew of wrestling friends are under 35 and we watch less freestyle than the demographic you mentioned of 50+ (in the crowds i run in) . I wouldnt buy season tickets to freestyle and would likely give up watching and i know my friends would as i watch more freestyle than any of them. I think you are really underestimating why people enjoy folkstyle. Im not trying to start the argument all over again im just throwing in my 2 cents on this last post. I dont want to feel like ive outgrown watching wrestling but switching to freestlye would do it. I stopped watching football because they ruined the game with rule changes. In fact you hear that about the NBA and NFL (i beleive veiwership may be up for NFL/NBA? I dont really know) and i would do the same if we get rid of American style wrestling. I think others might feel the same way, change the rules, change the game, lose fans.

Chael actually did have freestyle in the octagon it was terrible lol. You can watch it on ufc fight pass. What would be amazing is the karate combat pit. But i get laughed at when ever i suggest it. Also it would be an expensive overhaul.

Step outs would be even more gamified in folk where we have mat wrestling and escapes. Having matches end with no take downs and just push outs will not go well with the fans in my opinion No overtime is terrible. Games that last 2 hours have an OT; a wrestling match is 6 or 7 minutes depending on style and someone winning in a tie situation doesnt play well with the larger sports population

Thats one part of a larger analysis that would need to happen. Swim gets a big boost in viewers during olympics, why? the boost is so large that it is one of in not the most watched sport during the olympics, why? Does wrestling receive a similar viewership boost, why or why not? Is there something about the sports themselves that makes the boost so different? Is there anything we could do to get more viewership for freestyle in the olympics such as copying something swim does? So we need to compare both and I think we will come to the conclusion one sport is simply easier to understand and thus gets more viewers. Im willing to be wrong i just dont beleive i am.

Swimming is highly intuitive. Any one from 5-105 can watch and jump in at any point and understand whats going. Its a race. Races are simple and it has really close finishes which are exciting. This is truly apples and oranges.

Once every 4 years and people pick and choose events. Wheres freestylr wrestling rank among that novelty? Is one of top most watched? Are more or comparable amount of Americans watching olympic wrestling compared to the NCAA finals? I doubt it.

Any way to try and prove that? These same school have RTCs. Whats the veiwership look like for an RTC duel vs a NCAA duel? I doubt its comparable.

How good is BTS viewership? How about national qualifier tournaments? No one watches freestyle.

Freestyle is a better product by what metric? We alread have this and have had it, Yonger, Abdurakmonov, Ganabayar, the other ISU kid and much more. Last two points are interesting.

What fanbase for freestyle? Are the tournaments selling out? Are the matches getting comparable views to the top folkstyle matches? The answer is no. Its wild to attack folkstyles popularity when freestyle is even less popular with an even smaller fan base. And trying to straight up steal the folkstyle fanbase and popularity by forcing freestyle isnt going to make things better, youll just kill viewership and the fan base. Freestyle is non intiuitive, overly reffed by design, overly gamed because the rules are dumb, has much more controversial scoring, and criteria is not satisfying for a typical sports fan.

How funny i state the problem is the wider rule set and you who blames reffing calls me a reductionist.

You can blame the refs. Theyre enforcing a rule set. An awful rule set. A subjective rule set. I blame the rule set. And thusly the style.

Hate refs or hate fakestyle?

Freestyle is a trash ruleset transition and kill the american wrestling fan base.

I didnt say it doesnt work. I didnt say people dont have trouble paying attention. Teachers wanted to put me on the shit. I think we are all masters of our own minds. There is more evidence of monks controlling their brain through meditation than there is of the "adhd brain". Its a lack of discipline and training your own mind. Its a short cut. And its a banned substance. I, like you, experimented a time or two. Its insanely powerful stuff. But i chose a different route ultimately. And i didnt say that stuff he changed my quote because hes a snake who doesnt want to engage in a real conversation.

Cute. How do they diagnose adhd again? Oh the teacher wants young timmy to sit still and he doesnt listen? Drug him. Oh you think you have adhd lets have you do a self assesment survey. Any bio metrics? Any brain scans? Nope. Give them the drugs and take the money. Also what kind of snake injects other illnesses and issues into someones opinon like that. Another straw man.

No my point from the beginning is that these drugs are performace enhancing and that is in fact what they are designed to do. They are also on the banned list for that very reason. I will not read your post and adress the straw man. You, yourself, beleive the drug is designed to increase mental performance. We are done here.

Ive lived with multiple. Ive asked their opinion on this very subject. They say it shouldnt be allowed. And its not. For a reason. So you keep pushing your opinion.... Oh and just about anyone can get a script. And adhd is fake but thats besides the point. Ive asked people who are life time users and ive consulted the rules. It aint allowed.

Bull spit

It 100% is a PED and a perscrption shouldnt mean shit. It wouldnt for medical marijuana. And it shouldnt for something that will actually help in a sport.

Disgusting. Well it would be, if god hadnt personally told Cael to do it of course.

Ok? How is that relevant to this situation at all? Carter was calling out DT for something the leader of his team did himself. While your information is correct it has no place in this conversation.

His team is literally run by a guy who gave up loyalty to coach at PSU....

Dude stfu