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No, that's not what this is a THREAD about. The original POST was simply about Harris isn't going to run and then you editorialized as to the why. And then it became about how bad California was and then at some point, you claimed Chevron was a Trillion dollar company and...other things happened as well. But like...the first 8 words are right. And no, I don't "keep talking about California seceding," and that's... brilliant you pointing out it wouldn't happen PAGES and PAGES after i said as much. You just getting in from last night or... what's going on here?

Wait... so you're pointing out that I come here... post. And then I DON'T post? Yes, I supposed that's "observably factual." It's also not at all disputed... and pretty clear you missed the point. The point was the guy who doesn't understand what DOMESETIC terrorism is... again saying I'm wrong and then I "ran away" because I didn't post on here because...I DON'T post on here every day.

He literally brought it up two times in a row and then tried to mock me for "running away for weeks," because I haven't been posting on here. Struggling with your reading comprehension, aren't ya?

...what are you talking about? Are you arguing that Chevron and their...probably 250-300B Market cap is one of the top 10 companies in the world? TF are you talking about? How is Chevron a top 10 company? Nvidia 4.4 TRILLION market cap. Avgo-1.5T market cap They MIGHT have a larger market cap than AMD... which isn't close to the top 10. Bud, this isn't the thread for you. Stick to ETFs or index funds.

And... yet another post in which you are apparently not capable of grasping the context. There was a thread about DOMESTIC TERRORISM and @El Luchador is STILL making the argument it wasn't about Domestic Terrorism and still defending his Pol Pot argument.

Yeah, no kidding here sport. I said that early on. This isn't a "pipe dream" of mine as it'd be devastating to the United States. Are you capable of following these threads?

I'm not "acting like" anything other than explaining the facts while you repeat a statistic you didn't fully understand. And really...good look to the people leaving Silicon Valley, the most innovative place on Earth. And no, they wouldn't "just move to Austin." If they would or could, you wouldn't have Tesla, Oracle and the "companies" who left, leave the majority of their workforce in California including their most important departments. You can talk about what would happen if... but we already know what DID happen. Oracle left, they have remote workers...except for the engineers and programmers who still worker as their main hub...which is in California. Tesla, their R&D, and all their innovation, still in California. Didn't leave for Delaware when Tesla became a Delaware company and didn't move to Texas when he was losing his 55B dollar compensation package because of a lawsuit in Delaware. You can't believe this. 5 of the top 10 companies in the WORLD are in California as well as sooo many others like PAWN, CRWD... the companies that keep your money safe. That protect against the THOUSANDS of attacks per hours by these Russian and Chinese attempts to hack. It's actually be entertaining see the disastrous that would happen to the US government if they lost just the companies who have headquarters in California right now. Not even the companies like TSLA who are building their Robotics and Battery engineering in California. Just the hundreds that are still there. The34% of the SPY that just 7 California companies make up.

Do you not remember the premise of this discussion? California isn't a State in this... ridiculous hypothetical(because it's such a shame what California became). They would have another 130 BILLION dollars as they wouldn't have to pay the Federal government so they can provide welfare for the Red States. West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, etc... Even a 68B dollar deficit vs a 4.4 TRILLION dollar GDP where they're paying ~130B to the Fed Govt. You made absolutely no point here other than affirm... the US needs California more than California needs the United States.

Yeah...you googled the Oracle lawsuit(which...strongly undermines your point as remote workers HAD to report to their facilities in California and then sued for Overtime). Oracle has 3X as many employees in California than Texas does. You're acting like the women on Skype taking the minutes is equal to their head engineers... which virtually ALL work in California. Oracle has a lot of remote workers. They still have the facilities that are the most important to Oracles operations in California. They just pay taxes elsewhere.

Also... it wasn't a Hoax. Trump admitted it, his Chief of Staff admitted it. The entire intelligence apparatus said it happened. Russia interfered. They did it again in 2020 and 2024. Yet...if you were ACTUALLY going to prosecute someone, it's odd that the FBI would be investigating both the Republican Candidate AND the Democratic Candidate the Last week before the election but only publicly announce one of the two investigation which... is not what they do. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/trump-acknowledges-russia-role-in-us-election-hacking-aide-idUSKBN14S0O9/?utm_source=chatgpt.com The U.S. intelligence community, including the FBI, CIA, and NSA, concluded that Russia conducted a widespread campaign to influence the election in favor of Donald Trump. This assessment was supported by the Mueller report, which found that Russian interference occurred "in sweeping and systematic fashion" and "violated U.S. criminal law"

You realize the "Ds" are also "more favorable" in polls than Republicans, right?

Great. Drive through any QUARTER of the Country and you're going to go through some "cesspools." Drive through the Midwest. Illinois is one of the most boring states in the country into Oklahoma. Hell, the Southwest, AZ, Texas... god that is miserable. Also PLENTY of Meth Towns and you have Chicago or whatever city you want to cite. You sound like Trump and it's not a good look. Southern Hospitality is real, the Country down there is beautiful. The poverty is striking and obviously an issue, but to call the South a Cesspool... again, it's something Trump would say about Haiti(which IS a cesspool) and you'd be up in arms about that. Also, you can prefer to go elsewhere for your next vacation... not really an anecdote that's particularly convincing here as I don't think I'd want to go to the Gulf for vacation either. I like to fly and leave the Country for vacation.

Dude... AGAIN, the fact that 4 posts into a thread about DOMESTIC TERRORISM and a title that played into Homeland Security and FBI reports that the Biggest Threat to Domestic Security IS..... (the first part you were unable to figure out, he was arguing against that narrative). But then 4 posts in to a thread about DOMESTIC TERRORISM.... and you brought up POL POT!!! And you're letting me you'll let MY "simple admission of[my] error" go? There's all types of stupid. There's the confidently stupid- There is the proudly stupid There is the ignorant, but still going to make an argument type of stupid. There is being wrong and just saying, 'nuh-uh,' no matter how clear it is...stupid. And then there's bringing up a DEPOSED Cambodian Dictator who died 28 years ago and then posting an article about how small of an impact he had in the United States, HOPING nobody else would actually read it-type stupid. The worst is when someone is so obviously wrong, proven wrong and they STILL keep arguing it! You didn't know what Domestic meant... and that's just...Christ dude, I'm embarrassed for you. You also didn't get the reference Scout was using

I don't think I'm being subtle about this. If they were their own Country, they'd have NO problem using desalination to get ALL the water they'd possibly need. How have I been unclear about this? They're their own Country. They have 130B in more income....and it'd be more than that as Oracle and TSLA would be paying California Taxes as Countries don't allow you to leave while all the actual work, R&D, Engineering and frankly, all of the high skilled people you need for these companies life in California. So it'd be a couple hundred billion more if not for the rest of the United States. -But yes, if they NEEDED to get ALL of their Water from the Ocean, they would be able to do so and they'd do so before they... I don't know what you imagine, just started dying? -The WEALTHIEST State that has several companies that specializing in producing Nuclear power for singular facilities located in their State, a State that's already built and is TRYING to build three new massive desalination plants(but people don't want those ugly plants near them, so they were killed voted down, but you still had the funding, Newsom and the State behind them). Yes, they could both survive and thrive. Of course, at the moment, they're ALSO building underground reservoirs so they can retain 95% MORE of the rain water. EITHER WAY, there's no scenario in which they NEED the Colorado River to survive. But taking it ONE step further. EVEN IF THEY DID... the River goes into California. So they could just take it. So there's about a dozen reasons this is a stupid argument, but you don't need to get past the desalination. They have the resources, they now have the energy supply that can directly address that issue and if they had the need, they have the solution. It's also the solution to the future and it sure as hell does not take fusion to get there. Just...good old fashion Nuclear Power Plants.

Dude... are you just playing stupid now or are you actually this stupid? The TITLE is "White Supremacists are the biggest threat...." And then it's about a domestic terrorist event that took place. This is SUCH a simple connection that to pretend it wasn't about "Domestic Terrorism," when that's quite literally the subject of the thread and the comment about "White Supremacists are the biggest threat...." which it NATURALLY follows is repeating the FBI and Homeland Security's claim that the biggest threat to Domestic Terrorism, it's pretty obvious WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC TERRORISM! My God dude, you actually argued that Pol Pot was a bigger threat to domestic terrorism in that thread until I think you got embarrassed after posting a 1997 article about how he was an inconsequential figure upon leaving Cambodia or maybe just the fact that you denied fascists are "far right," or how Nationalists who want once race to dominate is not far right, but I can't imagine ONE person who's not named Jimmy or...who's the other one... Scout-whatever... believes YOU believe what you're saying now. They may not think White Nationalists or White Supremacists are the biggest thread, but EVERYONE knew what that thread was about unless they were living under a rock and EVERYONE knew that bringing up a man who died 28 years ago and claiming he had such a significant influence on Americans was... just a truly pathetic last grasp at a flailing and terrible argument.

Again, it wouldn't become that expensive. That's the point that's trying to be conveyed here. You wouldn't need the grid to power it. You are aware how they're powering these massive Data Centers, right? Look up the company Oklo. You'd have them build a facility. That would power the desalination plant. Musk was absolutely right in the clip that @Caveira posted thinking he was proving me wrong but... just...basically said the exact same thing I said. Newsom, The Democrats in the State House, Musk, there is a consensus. Desalination is an easily and effective and now relatively cheap method to produce more than enough water. I'm not entirely sure why in 2025 people think it'd be cost prohibitive. Google Oklo. Again, too bad people didn't listen when I mentioned this about a year ago. It's about 700% since then.

I'm sorry, are you saying Canada didn't? They did. And they voluntarily gave them up in the 1980s when they were trying the whole disarmament strategy. I'm constantly in awe of your stupidity. The State that's MOST important to the United States(just objectively speaking)...THEY'D go to War to take back their Nukes? That's your little theory?

Jimmy, you keep showing your arse. Do you realize how much of the US Military is already in California?

... Jimmy, you really have no idea what's currently IN California, do you? And Pakistan is allowed to have Nukes. CANADA had nukes. But you think the State that already has Nukes wouldn't...have Nukes? Cool.

That was like 2 paragraphs and not directed to you.

This is really no different than what people are saying about California or... New York or any state. I just spent a week in rural Georgia. It was...beautiful. I'm not sure I'd want to spend a week in Louisiana in the Bayou, but...still.

No, the Southern States are nice... in some places. BUT... it's a bit ironic when "MAGA" complains about how the Blue States when in fact, the most violent states-red. The biggest welfare recipients-red. And the lowest education-red. But saying the Entire South is trash is... c'mon. It's not 1830.

Go down the list to each President. Republican and Democrat...and see who spends the most. It's not even REMOTELY close. And try and make sure you understand the assignment and understand the budgets are set a year in advance.

No...he does not. If he did, he'd have doen it in his "big beautiful bill." Instead, he gave the majority of the tax breaks to the top .02%.

No, it's not like saying that AT-ALL. It's like saying if California was it's own Country and they didn't have access to the Colorado River, they would ABSOLUTELY be able to survive...which is the point that was made that I was disputing. And what Gov't resource is used in unlimited situations? The ENTIRE conversation is if California could survive without the United States and who needs who more, the US needs California or California needs the United States. So I don't know why we're talking about "the most likely outcome is that they'd more likely just be grown somewhere else in the country." Sure...fine. But it wouldn't be part of "the Country" in this scenario.