BuckyBadger

Can I take that back?

Lee is looking really good but Abullayev has some really funky dangerous stuff. It won’t be a cake walk in the semis.

What was that call to overturn the pin?

She can go to college later on. I would imagine she is able to earn some money through endorsements etc from her recent success. Why go to college now when she is arguably the P4P in women’s wrestling? Even if she gets injured at some point, it probably makes more sense to pursue international results as opposed to a scholarship to college.

I’m still not clear on the rules. I saw plenty of matches where they seem to put both down automatically, regardless of the action. Other matches where they put one guy down and that was it.

Do they automatically put both down, or are they only supposed to put the guy down not controlling the middle?

I’ve seen a number of matches where wrestler A is the aggressor while wrestler B is more defensive. Wrestler B gets put down for passivity. Then A continues to be the aggressor but he gets put down. It’s like the refs automatically put both down regardless of who the aggressor is. Anyone else see it the same?

Perhaps, if the Iranians are aware of Brook’s previous comments.

What do you mean “full blooded”? Are you saying American is an ethnic group?

Easily the gymnast.

As more is coming out about this case, if the competitors are DSD it’s possible that it’s not simply higher levels of testosterone, but one where they are born with internal reproductive organs of both sexes. I don’t know if that’s the case here, but if so, it’s not the case of a biological female simply producing higher levels of testosterone. And not comparable to a basketball player that is 7 ft. I do an acknowledge the nuance and gray area of this situation as opposed to a Lia Thomas example. However, in a sport like boxing the stakes are much higher in the sense that someone with male strength (or even in between) fighting a woman is playing with fire. If these competitors are born with both male and female reproductive organs, I think it’s pretty clear they should not be in the ring with biological females.

US flag being burned in Times Square and Hamas flags being flown. This is not the exception anymore, but becoming more common. Anyone that sees the protests here as simply about Palestinians being oppressed is lying to themselves.

If your going to be distrustful of the IBA because of corruption, then you have to be equally suspicious of the IOC, which has their own history of very shady behavior.

In the case that this is a biological woman who happens to have abnormally high levels of testosterone, I would say it is different than a Leah Thomas situation. It’s an area of gray area as far as I’m concerned. But there are two things that don’t really make sense in this case. 1. A testosterone test is not a test of gender and the IBA said they both failed gender tests. 2. The way the Italian forfeited mid bout is very weird. To me that would suggest she sensed something abnormally dangerous. It’s possible she is just using it as an excuse to quit. But if not, it doesn’t make sense. Interested to hear how you would explain these two @uncle bernard@1032004

And if the testosterone levels were off the charts would you be ok with that?

There you go, just throw out insults to anyone that disagrees with you.

But when they fail a gender test it does.

Then why would the Italian suddenly decide mid bout to throw in the towel. Clearly she felt the strength of the punches was not normal. Isn’t that the whole reason they do a gender test?

My son is about to turn 5 and loves doing gymnastics. I swore to myself I’m not going to be a crazy wrestling Dad that puts pressure on him to do wrestling. He’ll pursue what he wants. But part of me hopes he develops all that core strength, flexibility etc in gymnastics and then starts wrestling. I can’t think of a better base foundation for wrestling.

I’m surprised this is not getting more press. There are two boxers in the female division that failed gender tests in 2023 and were disqualified from the world championships by the International Boxing Association (IBA). But they do meet IOC criteria. The IOC essentially banned the IBA from making a decision like this for the Olympics. “Last year the IOC banished the IBA and developed an ad-hoc unit that ran the Olympic boxing tournament at the Tokyo Games in 2021 and is doing the same here. The IOC did not detail the criteria met by Khelif and Yu-Ting to compete here and in Tokyo, but did say the boxers’ passports state they are women.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/2024/08/01/olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-gender-eligibility-issue/74628914007/ An Italian boxer had to withdraw from a match against the Algerian, one of the two boxers, I guess because she realized she was in real trouble if she continued. What the hell is going on that the powers that be let this happen? Allowing men in the ring with women is going to result in someone getting killed. This has gone way too far. Soon we’ll see a biological man competing in female wrestling.

What’s interesting about gymnastics is technique has to be as close to perfect as possible. Your legs are bent or not parallel you get points off. I remember how much my wrestling coaches used to emphasize technique over strength at a young age when you are building your muscle memory. If you drill it wrong at first it’s much harder to relearn the right way. But obviously there are still guys that can reach a pretty high level in the sport relying more on strength and making technical mistakes. I think gymnastics is much less forgiving in that respect.

Those dudes have an insane combination of strength, flexibility, balance and grit. They are very impressive to watch. I have to think many of these guys would make great wrestlers.

If you disagree with him, fine. But where is your argument? I guess you aren’t able to say what is you disagree with him on so you just throw out insults, hoping that will discredit him? Is that the best you can do?

My point exactly. Break dancing is among the worst examples.

Probably because they aren’t really accessible to most. How many can afford a horse or to go sailing? These are competitions limited to the upper class and probably only have thousands to tens of thousands of participants worldwide. No way they belong in the Olympics.