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Times placing 6th at ncaas lee: 1 cox: zero. Not playing hypotheticals on the "covid year". Excuses are for wusses and Lee lost because Ramos was the better wrestler (his words)

Quality of competition matters. Jden was an Olympic and world medalist before he graduated college without taking a redshirt season. He had wins over the likes of David Taylor and Kyle dake in this same time. Who is Lee's best win? Thomasello or suriano? Both good but nowhere near the levels of dake or Taylor and thomasello traded matches with Lee. Lee is great, but not an all timer. Even his placement record is below cox and the others mentioned. Bonusing his way through the Iowa jv open in 4 minutes mostly means nothing.

Below jden cox and Zain Retherford

Tough time for Oklahoma wrestling in general.. osu not fairing too well either these days.

Lee lost to piccinnini

Senior megaludis would defeat freshman and senior Lee for sure. Sophomore Lee is maybe 50/50 and junior Lee is favored but still has a tiny gas tank.

Bassett won 4 to 1

If bo basset had been allowed to wrestle is there anyone in the state that would have given him a good match?

Overall I think the Ironside/kolat match at all star was the best 133# of all time. The very end of ness/Dennis was epic to be sure. Vito vs rby and fix both were up there in recent memory. Steiber/olive is another infamous good one.. 149# will always be metcalf/caldwell to me. 285# steveson vs parris after parris said on social media that he was coming for gable. Steveson absolutely took that personally and it was great. Snyder/gwiz and snyder/coon were two other great ones in the last couple decades that stand put at hvy. Will add more thoughts later

125: abas 133: eutake 141: steiber 149: retherford 157: dake 165: Taylor 174: Askren 184: Sanderson 197: cox 285: steveson

Steiber was better

My opinion: 1. Starrocci 2. Brooks 3. Otoole 4. Vito 5. Carr 6. Alirez 7. Mr 665 (assuming he comes back as he hints) 8. Mekhi 9. Fix 10. Woods

I wouldn't favor him but glory had a chance.

There is no guarantee Lee would have won it during the covid year, even if he was the front runner in the bracket.

In the list of 3 timers where do you think he belongs? Hard to argue his career ended up better than Zain, nolf, nickel or Ruth. He had more losses, worse overall placements and got pinned a couple of times as well. His placement is pretty close to cox (cox slight advantage) but cox also had an Olympic and senior world medal before he graduated. Alex dieringer? Or would he be closer to two time Champs like David Taylor or imar? Just curious where everyone lumps him given his senior year.

Glory was going to beat him too. Would have made him front runner for hodge - if Lee was able to make it to the finals that is..

St Louis sells out almost every year they host it

Oklahoma state in the gutter. Gotta think smith is on a short clock at this point.

Sequence in question starts around 6:50

Essentially you can't score nearfall points through the body in that position

AOC take off early?

Twisting the dagger lol

Can anyone confirm that Lee accepted his 6th place medal?

Vito and otoole are both great choices imo.

Ramos, Vito, woods, alirez, sasso, Haines, carr, otoole, star, brooks, keck, Kerk all have one more year I believe.