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Still end the match after a 15 point lead, but don't give extra team points?

That seems strange as dual meets always went from lightest to heaviest at least through the end of the 1980s (well into the 1990s, I think) They did not start changing the order of the NCAA finald until some time in the 2010s (was the first time this was done for the Taylor-Dake final?) It seems likely that the broadcast crew messed up and gave information out of order when they were adding commentary on matches that had already occurred. Before EPSN started broadcasting the finals they were pretty low quality events. Everything was compressed into 1 hour and many of the finals not shown at all.

I have thought for awhile that this type of rule would vastly improve Greco. The risk v. reward for attempting a throw is too high. Only scoring if you initiate the action makes sense to people who watch Judo, but is mind boggling to people who are used to wrestling

LOL at university presidents thinking about number of weight classes on the wrestling team. Hopefully they have more important things to worry about.

That rule has been replaced with unlimited OT (maybe for the last two Olympic cycles?) Last Olympics, I saw a lot of strategy trying to get the third penalty for the DQ instead of trying for a score to win.

Did this rule ever exist? I don't remember it. Seems like a reasonable solution, but I don't think it will work well in practive. Judo for about 10 years has had a rule for unlimited OT for a tiebreaker and it is not a good solution IMO. Too many matches end up being very conservative during regular and competitors just play to OT. Often OT periods are often longer the the regulations time. And as it is hard to score against someone you are evenly matched with, a lot of OT matches (maybe most) are decided by a penalty point referee essentially calling the equivalent of stalling. I have not followed Judo closely in the last few years, so maybe they have changed the rules again.

This tie breaking criteria was only used in tournaments. In dual meets, matches that ended in a tie score after time ran out would result in a tie.

I don't see a good reason for having the exact same rule in duals and tournaments. NFL and NHL have different rules. There is not a need an absolute need to determine a winner like there is in a tournament. I also don't see a good reason to have teams score tiebreakers in dual meets, if after ten matches the score is even let it be a tie.

Bring back ties in dual meets. No need for multiple OTs in a dual.

That's a crazy body transformation. Many years ago, multiple people said that I looked like The Rock. I had a shaved head and still had the remnants of a muscular torso and thick neck from my wrestling/lifting years. It was quite amusing, as I am the pastiest white guy you'll ever meet and not exactly possessing movie star looks. I month or so ago I was telling friends about this and joked that no one is making that comparison today, but maybe with his new look it will happen again Though based on the above photo, I might not take that as a compliment

Frank Chamizo won a bunch world golds for Italy

The relative lack of money for international wrestling is also a factor. A decent amount of Japanese baseball players have done OK playing in the MLB

Didn't Peyton Manning have a spinal fusion in his neck before joining the Broncos? I remember at the time I thought he was crazy to continue playing FB.

The announcers were saying in Veliev match that he (or his family) is an immigrant, but he grew up in the Belgium wrestling system. I believe that was true for one of the French wrestlers with a "Russian" name

Less credit given for Hvy pins especially for Taylor being 200 lbs heavier than opponents. He was a very good wrestler for hi size, but I don't think he was ever regarded as an "outstanding" wrestler

BU never fired Adams, they dropped the program

Referees are so hesitant to call a stall call in the thid that either awards a victory or sends a match into OT.I that I think it would be very difficult to account for a this in an analysis of the 3 pt TD v the 2 pt. I still like it because of the extra value it places on the TD which is so much harder than an escape. Finally, anecdotally, I feel that there has always been and will continue to be lots of stalling in a any match in the third where a wrestler is up by one score.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/us/politics/ohio-state-wrestlers-abuse-me-too.html This article gives a really good perspective from some of the actual wrestlers who were abused on how the "big tough wrestlers" could let this happen. I read it and bookmarked when the story first came out as it really help me understand the situation and by extension other victims of abuse. It is behind a paywall now, but many of their points have been echoed in this thread.

Exactly the same as UWW Freestyle. Sorry, but why do I want to see the best in the US wrestling another different style. If they are doing a different style than what the best in the world does it is a gimmick.

I think Gomez would be a heavy favorite against Parker and RBY should be favored over Conin as well. I am assuming that the Cuban at 97kg could be favored over Radenmacher

Where do you see good matches in the finals? There looks to be noly two Cubans entered and the only other challenger I can see is Austion Gomez who may be able to beat Jame Green. 10 Golds by the US seems likely.

I really thought these were joke names that you were suggesting for future wrestlers to use. Looks like an AI generated list of cool wrestling names. I had to google multiple names before I truly believed they are all legit names

This is true of mot Olympic sports. Even sports that are popular during Olympics years like swimming and diving are mostly irrelevant during non-Olympic years. I don't know if there are pockets somewhere in the world where sports like Canoeing, Fencing, Shooting, Sailing, Water Polo etc. have large following and the athletes are celebrities, but looking at the list of Olympic sports I would guess the majority of them are niche sports similar or even less popular than wreslting.

"Matisde" weigh-in already occur at the big BJJ tournaments without any issues. Uniform, skin and weight check are done in a bullpen before you are allowed to go to the mat area with no delays, a few extra bodies are needed to staff this area.

Agree, I love this bit of mythology and the belief that it proves how great Gable was. I heard USA wrestling is doing the same thing now to find someone to beat Sadulaev. Scouts are out from the Alaskan tundra to inner city Miami hoping to find someone to beat Sadulaev as we have found anyone in traditional wrestling hotspots that can beat him.