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LOL.

My boys have wrestled in this for a few years, I can tell you this thing is a blast. Cliff runs a great tourney and there are some major matches. I have not paid attention to it this year. TONS of college wrestling coaches started coming to this at the end of our run.

I am not saying he is a sad story, I am asking if a change of scenery is needed for him to continue growing in the sport. And why you gotta bring in a "GD" into the conversation!

Yeah, I am not doubting you, I will look later and see what is going on. It would make sense to transfer for sure.

Damn, I did not know Joey Cruz was gone!? Where is he at now?

Do you think after that showing, he will think he needs a new view?

YES! That is what I am talking about. It blows my mind that he does that, and nobody has snatched him up.

We were just talking about this and his kids! I too am curious to see how this all plays out.

Minnow is the biggest Douche out there, and it aint close. BUT, people give him the attention he wants. I know 2 guys that tried to track him down, because he was telling lies about their families. I cannot believe nobody has grabbed him in public, he has made a lot of people pretty mad.

I agree 100%

you might know a thing about a thing. lol. You also might know who has a good shot at 149....just sayn.

Chad Richison has nothing to do with UCO wrestling anymore. He got pissed off on who they hired as the president of the school, and the school kept him on as president. I am assuming that is what you are talking about with Paycom

Devon Miller transferred from North Carolina and has enrolled at the University of Central Oklahoma. What the heck is the story here? He was originally committed to wrestle for Kolat at Navy, decommitted, and chose NC....and now he is at UCO.

Damn, I didn't know that. I heard Kenny Monday is not doing great as the HC at Morgan St, I wonder if he will turn it around...lol

damn I never heard that....

that is fair.

All great questions. He was tough and good in highschool, and then he just fell of a cliff. I don't know if he is good anymore. He WAS the most troubled brother, not even close. He made AJ look like a preacher, but he seems to have got his stuff together? OR they are hiding it better. As far as morgan st, I seriously question how hard Kenny Monday is working to make that place better. This is for sure a bad and unfair opinion, because I am looking at the program from a distance, but I see nothing about pushing that university. He still has a big name, I think he could/would get some good in home visits that way? Anyway....just some some random thoughts.

I wrestled some good ones, but he was honestly one of the most technical guys I had ever wrestled. Calm, never emotional, just tough and solid. Tuttle kid, and there was a big group that came through there that was tough as hell. Trent Londen, Head brothers, on and on. Back in the day, the Oklahoma open was THE tournament to go to. Open, and everyone went to it. I to this day LOVE Thanksgiving because of the food, back then I never got to eat it cuz I was cutting weight. I was pretty good, and held my own, but not the Schmidt level. Wrestled him a few times, worst was 4-5 best was by 2. No moral victories, but now that I am old, damn right I believe in moral victories...lol

I don't understand the question

I wrestled Schmidt, tough as hell. Fried beat Brands, that dude was a bad mofo. Teague is a stud today, he is back into recruiting, and Weigel...GQ that could ride legs. GREAT call here....

gosh dang, I another absolute stud, gone too soon!

Me too. Can we discuss Morgan State? I do realize it is a new program, but how long does Monday get there before people start criticizing his progress? Again, tons of challenges, hard to recruit, etc....BUT, they absolutely suck.

SO, John was still training and still pretty much in his prime of wrestling. TJ, obviously tough as hell. RUMOR has it, TJ got the better of him in a few goes and John injured TJ, his ankle. This is a rumor that I have heard from a few people that were in the program. TJ said he was leaving, and John said he would never allow him to transfer out. This part is fact: The team was gone out of town on a dual, and TJ went into the AD's office and said, I am here to sign my transfer papers. AD says, I have no idea what you are talking about. TJ acts pissed, and says, John said they would be ready for me to sign. AD says, I cannot do that without John approving. TJ says, I will call him right now, acts like he is on the phone, does the "yep, i am in here and he says he didn't know about it etc" Obviously didn't talk to JOhn, but hangs up the phone. TJ says there you go, he said go ahead and draft them up and let me sign. AD does it. TJ signs transfer out. TJ is gone, heading to North Carolina and John gets back and is pissed...All sounds nuts, but it was way back before social media etc. That part about the transfer, I was told is a fact. I have never asked TJ directly about this, but I do have a friend that wrestled with him, that told me the story.

Speaking of TJ Jaworski, you guys know how and why he left Okie State? Not a good look for John.

Weigel, how good was he on top! Good one call.