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Several folk, myself included, though he should have gone 149 when Rivera was there, still. MVB was there, but it should have been hia priority to fill out the weight.

This. It is perceivable to put Foca and Labs as Tier 3. I know Labriola beat Lewis, but my view on tiers are as follows: Aside for an injury, illness, or a (near) lucky deck, you can defeat those one above your tier, in your tier, and one below your tier. Ergo... 1 - Starocci 2 - Lewis 3 - Labriola, Foca 4 - Plott, O'Malley, Smith, Romero 5 - Lautt, Mocco, Ruth, Brands There are others, but this is about

Bubba Wilson loses matches he shouldn't all the time. Or maybe it's that he wins matches he shouldn't? Probably both.

Gordon has narrowed the gap every time. 14-2 Major then 5-2 Decision and now a 3-1 SV Decision.

Also, Aaron.

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Are you referring to the same Amos that demolished Kerkvliet down below 220 a ~year before Goat Steveson scraped by via a 3-2 Decision while he (Kerk) was in his first year at 220 and bumped to face said Goat Steveson? He looked like a Tier 1 recruit regardless of weight since he was a 182lber. It doesn't change the fact that you are correct: He needs to go 285 next season.

Ramos was only 133 because Purdue had a 125lber. He wrestled 57 KG a few weeks later in Freestyle. Not sure what you were getting at, but let's not act like he was a big 133lber or something.

Actually I bet Wkn could figire this out fairly simply. After Tuesdays rankings, use higher ranking to determine conference placements, wrestlestat for RPI, and then add in the rest of the formula (winning percentage, conference champion, H2H, etc).

These are using Intermat's rankings for conference 'finish' for arguments sake... 125 1 - Lee, Iowa, B1G 1st 2 - Glory, Princeton, EIWA 1st 3 - Cardinale, West Virginia, B12 1st 4 - DeAugustino, Northwestern, B1G 2nd 133 1 - Bravo-Young, Penn State, B1G 1st 2 - Fix, Oklahoma State, B12 1st 3 - Arujau, Cornell, EIWA 1st 4 - McGee, Arizona State, P12 1st 141 1 - Matthews, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st 2 - Woods, Iowa, B1G 1st 3 - Alirez, Northern Colorado, B12 1st 4 - Bartlett, Penn State, B1G 2nd 149 1 - Diakomihalis, Cornell, EIWA 1st 2 - Gomez, Wisconsin, B1G 1dt 3 - Johnson, Iowa State, B12 1st 4 - Sasso, the Ohio State, B1G 2nd 157 1 - Robb, Nebraska, B1G 1st 2 - Humphreys, Lehigh, EIWA 1st 3 - O'Connor, North Carolina, ACC 1st 4 - Franek, North Dakota State, B12 1st 165 1 - O'Toole, Missouri, B12 1st 2 - Griffith, Stanford, P12 1st 3 - Monday, Princeton, EIWA 1st 4 - Carr, Iowa State, B12 2nd 174 1 - Starocci, Penn State, B1G 1st 2 - Plott, Oklahoma State, B12 1st 3 - Labriola, Nebraska, B1G 2nd 4 - Lewis, Virginia Tech, ACC 1st 184 1 - Brooks, Penn State, B1G 1st 2 - Keckeisen, Northern Iowa, B12 1st 3 - Hidlay, NC State, ACC 1st 4 - Coleman, Iowa State, B12 2nd 197 1 - Elam, Missouri, B12 1st 2 - Bonaccorsi, Pittsburgh, ACC 1st 3 - Dean, Penn State, B1G 1st 4 - Truax, Cal Poly, P12 1st 285 1 - Kerkvliet, Penn State, B1G 1st 2 - Parris, Michigan, B1G 2nd 3 - Hendrickson, Air Force, B12 1st 4 - Cassioppi, Iowa, B1G 3rd

Regular season ends, yes? So now we have conferences?

I think Brooks goes up and they have true frosh Josh Barr in there at 184.

Not really. I think Hall was banged up and got hurt during that match, didn't he? Also, PK is a brute. He may not have the same sort of lunchbox mits that Lunchbox Mits had, but Mini-Braun will always have trouble against a guy with that sort of physicality at 165.

I thought he would dominate to a close major. I didn't expect that much of a gap.

Arujau has something. A bug. Something. He dominated Latona and McGee a month ago, and looks bland, slow, and uninterested against them both this week.

Cornella is a stud.

Shit, that was even before Nick Lee was every really considered a contender right?

Illinois could win 165, 174, amd 197. I believe they are only mildly favored in one, though (174). Iowa needs Assad and Cassioppi to pin.

Twitter said it was Mikey.

Like used to be 141, you mean? Sweet.

I think Cox is the best bet. I don't think he beats him in a series, but would not be surprised if he took a match. I don't see him going 125 KG unless it is some sort of club VS club dual like the Flo RTC cup and not as a true 125 KG just as a bump. Even then I don't see it as they have three gents there at 125 KG already. I don't see anyone in our current crop of 184, 197, or 285 NCAA guys having it at 97 KG. I don't see any of our current 86, 92, 97, or 125 guys aside for Cox being able to have it at 97 KG either - and as I said Cox doesn't take a series from him. Unless it is an InjDef like Gadson I don't see it in the next five years.

Makes you wish D1 Men's were Freestyles rules too, yeah?

No Lunchbox mits to him, but he is strong like Ox.

That one, along with his U23s Worlds Freestyle Silver medal definitely earn him like Top 5/6 ranking in NCAA D1 Folkstyle right?