nhs67

You are pretty late to the party. I answered the question myself. In any case, they are my tiers. Make your own if you believe you can do better. I am doubling down.

Make a new post.

I like this feisty version of Wkn. Makes me feel more at home.

I damn near didn't read all of that...

I watched that match in-person. The ref's beat Facundo. Amine was just there for it.

This was pre-weaponized Gilman.

Vito has already said that he is coming back. He self-admitted that he has been in college too long and that the whole proposition of him delaying his final year of eligibility another full season is silly. It's been in 3 or 4 different interviews that he has said almost word for word the same thing.

Asking around and it looks like Webster was in the room during the season this last year and rolled Davenport up quite easily while also giving up a good 15-20lbs. Davenport has HEW. I still would love to see him at UofM trying to get that spark back. In the state of Michigan he was the toughest out for Facundo.

I take Carr over O'Toole in a street fight and that is just another 165lber. Carr is faster, stronger, and looks quite a bit more mean.

You see some of his videos where he has gloves on and throwing hands? He has no speed to them. I would not take him in a street fight P4P. I might even go with goofy Gilman over him just off tenacity.

Nelson Brands. Guy has claws that would make Huge Ackman proud.

Actually the answer to that question was yes, btw. Plott lost to a couple gents early in the season. I think I mentally ignored it due to knowing that he was banged up a bit? Still... they're my tiers. You should do your own @hawkguy. I have explained my method of tiers a few times, not that you should know. Basically a guy can beat a guy up or down a tier from him without it being a surprise. They shouldn't jump more than a tier unless there is injury or some other extraordinary circumstance(s) involved.

Is Plott losing to guys like O'Reilly, Ruth, and Jordan?

Honestly? Let Carr man 165 for em next year. I am good with that.

He doesn't have to build much.

Kevon Davenport in the portal (again). Curious the case for entering as well as... whatever other information there is on that. I honestly hope he can head to Michigan to wrestle with some of his old teammates. They need a 149lber and I don't know if Mayora or Davenport is better... or if Davenport can even wrestle this next season without some sort of waiver? Not sure.

I mean... the plan is still to be him after another year of development behind Pentz. Not sure what to tell you there.

I direct you to Harley Andrews: 22W - 2L as a redshirt last season. Their presumptive starter after Pentz is gone.

Pentz is going 285.

I mean... if Plott doesn't redshirt, I don't know that they are any worse off for next season. If Lewis does go up to 184, like many are speculating, then Plott is right there in the thick of it for a Silver. I would put 174 like this, insofar as tiers... (this is off the top of my head)... Tier 1 - Starocci Tier 2 - Foca, Griffith Tier 3 - Plott, Kharchla Tier 4 - Mocco, Brands, O'Malley, Conigliaro, Jordan, Ruth, Washington * There are other gents in Tier 4, I am sure. A lot of parity there. I could also see a few gents separating from the pack and needing to split Tier 4 to Tier 4 and Tier 5. That puts Plott right in the thick of things, with the right matchup(s). I could also see him losing to a half dozen other gents. I think Wittlake at this point was Tier 3 at best, but could have been Tier 4/5 in that scenario. I am not sure.

Perhaps looking to do a Rutgers and use both at 125/133 in the future? I suppose they could do a lineup bump after Andonian goes, but I assumed Ulrey would slide right in to 157 after that.

I think you gents are accurate on the 174/184 situation and I would have also played it that way. I think Carroll is the obvious answer for OSU, but I hope they do redshirt him. Right now he is fringe R12, which isn't but a match or two higher than Doucet. If he goes in 2024-2025 for his frosh season he is a T3-6 contender, depending on development. Doucet I believe is about tapped out as a R12/R16 guy. I don't know that Mirzo drops. He has Olympic aspirations at 74 KG for his home country (one of the 'stans). Even if Smith wills him to it, I don't know that he does or even wants to. I think we more than likely see him redshirt(or Oly-shirt) then man 165lbs. After seeing Gomez succeed at 149 after jumping from 133 to 149, I like the idea of seeing Alvarez and Williams fighting it out at 149. I believe the problem with that is that Jamison hasn't had an injury free season/year in how long? Also Williams was just down at 65 KG (143.3lbs) and lost to Michigan's incoming true frosh Gilcher at U20s. I don't know what success any of them are going to have at 149, let alone if one ends up going 157. Alvarez is explosive and we know his style translates well, when he isn't cutting insane weight, to D1 wrestling. That makes me hope he find success either at 149 or 157. I really think it ends up being Alvarez and Williams at 149 until one cements themselve (likely by the new year) and then the loser going at it with Manibog/Sheets at 157, which I think is no foregone conclusion at this current point in time. This is all assuming Jamison can stay healthy. If he can't I am not sure what they do. Prior to U20s I would have said Alvarez, but A - I don't want Alvarez at 141. I want him at 149 at the lowest. I don't want to see him cutting weight. At all. Also B - I don't know what to expect of Williams. He went from wrestling 70 KG (154.3lbs) last offseason to 149lbs during his redshirt to 65 KG (143.3lbs). I didn't think he looked particularly soft coming out of high school as a 152lber.

Nasty way to go, I hear.

If you have ever seen any interviews from pre-civilized MMA days you will understand that often the 'most skilled' or 'best controlled' guy was quite often never the baddest man in the room due to these short-fuses you don't care about. A street fight means anything goes. Self-controlled people don't ever let 'anything go' when it comes to that. For example: I don't want to fight Bo Nickal in a street fight because I know he will sleep me. Meaning he will take me down and put me to sleep. Even in a street fight I am fairly confident he will do this. He has a high IQ and knows this. I don't want to fight Blue Dragons Jr because I know he has no self-control and will probably keep pounding my skull if (when) he gets it on the pavement. There is a large difference there in possible long-term negative effects.

Dr. @MPhillips. He is on the TV bro. Had a show with that cash me ousside girl.