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I mentioned the weight disparity above. Like I said, dummy me. Lol

Beau Bartlett and Carter Starocci win by 17-3 major and 20-3 TF to upset intermat poster boredom.

Is that Joey's win? I read the headline, but thank you I stand corrected. Probably should have also considered Scott outweighs Marcus. Dummy me. Lol.

Still, high school junior beats two NCAA all americans. Those all americans being dead or not dead does not translate to Blaze not being able to get folkstyle takedowns which prompted these responses.

Blaze beat Ed Scott in that same Clarion Open where he beat Matt Ramos. He also recently put a td clinic on the #2 guy at his weight in Ohio.

Ok. It isnt Penn State. Its whatever school you want it to be.

No. I would say the environment and philosophy around the Penn State program are bringing out the best in more wrestlers than anywhere else. Mesenbrink is an example of that.

I don't get the whole yelling at your wrestler thing either but plenty of that happens.

McEnelly vs Iowa, who wins? I really like McEnelly vs Arnold. I think vs Ferrari its a toss up but no matter the result I think McEnelly backs him up toward the edge. Once an edge staller vs. tough wrestlers, always an edge staller. That's Ferrari.

A 2 second video that does not show what you claim and it's on a loop? Is this some kind of a joke?

You would need a shot to have a shot to beat CStar.

Bormet cost Cardenas the match vs Barr. Just imo he shoulda cut him loose in OT.

You have it reversed. PSU is comparable at landing them but much better at developing them.

Oh yeah. If you are close when a barrel rips then you are at great risk. You seem well aware of this which is good on you.

Keep it going long enough it will exceed barrel pressure rating. Might even catch fire before that.

Cael lost his hair to the razor, but he is not losing his touch.

Bearclaw really doing well.

Numbers, you are still missing my point. When a coach is attempting to land a portal transfer, in that moment the measure of success is whether you get the transfer or not. Iowa is good at landing these transfers. How you develop those transfers is a further step in the process. You either get it or you don't but this step is where Cael dominates.

I dont think you are getting my point. Iowa gets studs, but do they produce as expected? Penn State gets studs, and on balance their guys produce the best results. What is the cause of this variation in outcome. It is not just recruiting or transfer rankings.

I am rebutting the idea that has prevailed in the past and which I see emerging again that it is all about simply landing the best prospects. That Penn State won, of course, simply because they had the best recruits. Iowa has also landed many, many elite recruits. If this idea were true then simply landing the best transfers would also be enough. After that, easy peasy lemon squeezie as my kids would say. Just off the top of my head, and I am no expert on their line up over the years but I think they landed transfers from Austin DeSanto, Pat Lugo, Gavin Teesdale, Real Woods, Jaydin Eierman, Brody Teske, Steven Buchanon, Mikey Caliendo, Kyle Parco, and Jacori Teemer. All elite transfers, many of whom were expected or at least predicted by Iowa fans to produce very high finishes and even titles. PSU seems to win by the sum of all that is required to produce great wrestling. Just as if you remove one small part from a machine it may seize up, it seems to me the same can happen in any great athletic program. Landing recruits is very important, but its just a start.

There is a lot more to this thing than just simply landing top recruits. If you land the right recruits among the top recruits, that obviously makes a difference. Having them stay healthy makes a difference. And then there is the portal where Penn State has done well but where Iowa has objectively done the best over the past 7 years. Then there is coaching, Penn State has won so many titles because the sum of these ingredients has added up to the most points.

You fail to properly acknowledge that 82 percent of top recruits were available to your school!

PortaJohn is correct, Penn State never got all the top kids all the time. If you look at the top ten recruits for the last ten years using flo big board, or a total of 100 recruits, PSU landed 18 of them. Two left, three were injured and barely scored any NCAA team points. Several are unproven at the NCAA Ch. level. More than anyone else, but not everyone.

Class is in session.

Touche