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Perhaps. More guys have a chance at 197, but does that make it easier or harder? Yes, it seems both deeper and wider (more open). Most guys don't have a chance at 125, 165, 174, 184, and 285 (i.e., only a few are likely to win it)
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Agreed. It's not his style. However, while he counsels the big picture, including the importance of play and enjoyment, he is also extremely competitive, and the seeming laid back approach can sometimes mask how much winning is part of the game. I think Cael might find accord with the message of the Bhagavad Gita: focus on your actions, not the fruits (consequences) of your actions.
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It seems there is a need for clarification about what "easiest" (or "hardest") weight means: 1. Easiest for any of the 33 seeded wrestlers to win (compared to the other 9 weights)? 2. Easiest to AA (top 8)? 3. Easiest because the weight isn't very deep (compared to the other 9 weights)— e.g., only has 2 or 3 elite guys in it? 4. Easiest path to win the weight for someone given their seeding? 125 might be the easiest for Spencer Lee win because he doesn't have many true threats. 165 might be the hardest for anyone who is not a top 4 seed. It has three returning champs. 197 seems wide open and relatively "easy" for top 12 or so guys to conceivably make the finals and win. 133 won't be easy unless you are RBY, Fix or Arujau. Same for 285: on paper it looks like Parris vs. Kerk. The only weights with no returning champs are: 141 and 285. Are they easier? One way to imagine the situation would be to ask if you had no idea what your given weight was, which weight would you pick to be thrown into and have the best chance to win it given what you know about the listed wrestlers and contenders? My own sense is that 197 and 157 are the most wide open. Then perhaps followed by 141.
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And one could add to this coach-wear line other accessories:
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Hidlay will just wrestle the out of bounds line and then skip out when Brooks gets to his legs. Hoping they hit him hard with stalling early and often. Make him wrestle
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link to the show https://www.ncaa.com/video/wrestling/2023-03-08/2023-di-wrestling-selection-show
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Here's how seeding actual works (result):
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Here's how seeding ideally works:
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https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6131827-how-does-the-ncaa-seeding-process-work Head-to-head competition — 25 percent Quality wins — 20 percent Coaches Ranking — 15 percent Results against common opponents — 10 percent RPI — 10 percent Qualifying event placement — 10 percent Win % — 10 percent
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8 PM Eastern https://www.ncaa.com/sports/wrestling/d1
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Yes, relationships in the Covid Era are challenging:
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I take it you are referring to the fact that Davis does not usually want to be in the corner and prefers to jump, sweat, stretch, gesticulate, cheer, curse, or swear with active mirror neurons from afar and often near the tunnel during NCAA matches when his guys are wrestling.
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And here is a mug shot of Nelson: Mug Shots of Baby Face Nelson “Baby Face” Nelson was born Lester M. Gillis on December 6, 1908, in Chicago, Illinois. He was a prolific and particularly violent criminal, robbing banks and murdering several lawmen (including three FBI agents) and innocent bystanders before being taken down Bureau agents in 1934.
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Got it. My bad.
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First off, there is zero chance Kerk is seeded ahead of Parris, who beat Kerk twice and is undefeated. Brands at 10-6 seeded 8th after a 5th place finish at Big Tens? Gomez is way too high at #4. I think he needs an at-large bid just to make NCAAs since he didn't place at Big Tens. And why is Robb seeded ahead of Haines?
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Another relevant metric is how many points individual wrestlers scored for their teams: 2023 Big Ten Championships Points Per Individual Aaron Brooks (Penn State) 22.5 Spencer Lee (Iowa) 22 Dean Hamiti (Wisconsin) 21 Real Woods (Iowa) 21 Carter Starocci (Penn State) 20 Mason Parris (Michigan) 20 Roman Bravo-Young (Penn State) 20 Sammy Sasso (Ohio State) 20 Levi Haines (Penn State) 19 Matt Ramos (Purdue) 19 Silas Allred (Nebraska) 19 Matt Finesilver (Michigan) 17.5 Lenny Pinto (Nebraska) 17 Michael Blockhus (Minnesota) 17 Patrick Kennedy (Iowa) 17 Max Murin (Iowa) 16.5 Shayne Van Ness (Penn State) 16.5 Tony Cassioppi (Iowa) 16.5 Aaron Nagao (Minnesota) 16 Brock Hardy (Nebraska) 16 Carson Kharchla (Ohio State) 16 Greg Kerkvliet (Penn State) 16 Peyton Robb (Nebraska) 16 Kaleb Romero (Ohio State) 15 Liam Cronin (Nebraska) 15 Max Dean (Penn State) 15 Mikey Labriola (Nebraska) 15 Lucas Byrd (Illinois) 14.5 Zac Braunagel (Illinois) 14.5 Ethan Smith (Ohio State) 13.5 Tate Orndoff (Ohio State) 13.5 Isaiah Salazar (Minnesota) 13 Lucas Davison (Northwestern) 13 Bailee Oreilly (Minnesota) 12.5 Beau Bartlett (Penn State) 12.5 Jaxon Smith (Maryland) 12.5 Michael DeAugustino (Northwestern) 12.5 Will Lewan (Michigan) 12.5 Dylan Demilio (Ohio State) 12 Cameron Amine (Michigan) 11.5 Chris Cannon (Northwestern) 11.5 Trevor Chumbley (Northwestern) 11.5 Dylan Ragusin (Michigan) 11 Eric Barnett (Wisconsin) 11 Graham Rooks (Indiana) 11 Jacob Warner (Iowa) 11 Patrick McKee (Minnesota) 11 Brian Soldano (Rutgers) 10 Trent Hillger (Wisconsin) 10 Yahya Thomas (Northwestern) 10 Chase Saldate (Michigan State) 9 Kendall Coleman (Purdue) 9 Maxx Mayfield (Northwestern) 9 Nelson Brands (Iowa) 9 Parker Filius (Purdue) 9 Cobe Siebrecht (Iowa) 8.5 Joseph Zargo (Wisconsin) 8.5 Cameron Caffey (Michigan State) 8 Edmond Ruth (Illinois) 8 Frankie Tal Shahar (Northwestern) 8 Jesse Mendez (Ohio State) 8 Abe Assad (Iowa) 7.5 Bubba Wilson (Nebraska) 7.5 Derek Gilcher (Indiana) 7.5 Hayden Copass (Purdue) 7 Jackson Turley (Rutgers) 7 Layne Malczewski (Michigan State) 6.5 Danny Braunagel (Illinois) 6 Ethen Miller (Maryland) 6 Alex Facundo (Penn State) 5.5 Brody Teske (Iowa) 5.5 DJ Washington (Indiana) 5.5 Jack Medley (Michigan) 5.5 Braxton Amos (Wisconsin) 5 Dean Peterson (Rutgers) 5 Boone McDermott (Rutgers) 4.5 Chance Lamer (Michigan) 4.5 Jakob Bergeland (Minnesota) 4.5 Joe Heilmann (Rutgers) 4.5 Michial Foy (Minnesota) 4.5 Caleb Fish (Michigan State) 3 Henry Porter (Indiana) 2.5 Jake Harrier (Illinois) 2.5 Michael North (Maryland) 2.5 Braxton Brown (Maryland) 2 Andrew Davison (Northwestern) 1.5 Ben Vanadia (Purdue) 1.5 Jacob Moran (Indiana) 1.5 Andrew Sparks (Minnesota) 1 Cole Mattin (Michigan) 1 Gavin Hoffman (Ohio State) 1 Jacob Bullock (Indiana) 1 Troy Fisher (Northwestern) 1 Andrew Clark (Rutgers) 0.5 Billy Janzer (Rutgers) 0.5 Cayden Rooks (Indiana) 0.5 Ceasar Garza (Michigan State) 0.5 Dominic Solid (Maryland) 0.5 Dustin Norris (Purdue) 0.5 Evan Bates (Northwestern) 0.5 Garrett Joles (Minnesota) 0.5 Jaden Reynolds (Purdue) 0.5 Kal Miller (Maryland) 0.5 Nick South (Indiana) 0.5 Ryan Vasbinder (Michigan State) 0.5 Stony Buell (Purdue) 0.5
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How about some grades for Iowa? That team is not beating Penn State if it doesn't improve a lot. And we all know that Penn State shows up at NCAAs while Iowa tends to fade.
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Juicy story lines heading into 2023 NCAAs
SocraTease replied to Dark Energy's topic in College Wrestling
Will Fix lose for a 4th time in the NCAA final? Can the Big Ten conference win 9 out of 10 titles? Will we see two finals pitting former (or current) NCAA champs against one another: C-Starr vs. Lewis and Griffith/O'Toole/Carr Can a freshman win NCAAs this year? Will Big Ten teams sweep the podium? Which weight will be the last one to go on Saturday night? How soon or how late will the team race be decided? Will the Hodge race be locked up when NCAAs are over? What is the over/under on Will Lewan's matches going to SV with 4 or fewer total points being scored? And, of course, will the Mongolians take off their clothes and jump around if they disagree with a referee decision ... oh wait, that is freestyle -
That's what Kennedy kept doing to Hamiti. It's notable that the most of the few offensive and exciting Iowa wrestlers were largely first trained elsewhere: Eierman, Woods, etc. before arriving to Iowa. Otherwise, they just emulate the Brands old school tough guy push and shove, strength and aggressiion style and approach. More defense than offense. Even what Lee (who is very offensive) does was mostly imported from PA when he arrived in Iowa. It's like Iowa is trying to live analog in a digital or virtual world.
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Thanks for the updates. Hope we get to see the replay somewhere