SocraTease

It's the last day to register if you want to be seeded. I see zero guys from the Penn State's starting lineup registered. I thought the plan (set forth by Cael) was to create a light schedule at the beginning of the year so that guys could train and compete to qualify for Olympic Trials. Thus far, no Bartlett, no Kerk, no Starrocci, no Truax, no Van Ness (out with injury), no one. BB, Truax, GK, and even CStarr can't simply assume they will win NCAAs and get the automatic qualifier. There are actually a few recruits registered—e.g., Sealey, Nasdeo, the Mirasola brothers.

They could still let the action continue if one of the wrestlers is in bounds and close to a takedown or before the edge of the mat is reached (touched by hand or foot). There are so many takedowns that seem to occur before both wrestlers fully go out of bounds, and these are counted with the early whistle blows. Further, many high school guys now wrestle freestyle as well, and the rules about takedowns are completely different (e.g, finishing out of bounds and even off the mat with a move that started inside or on it.) Simple solution: bigger mats. I don't know if there is any empirical information on average high school gym size, but certainly some (many) gyms can allow for an additional few feet of mat attached the already small mats. Wrestling is often way too slow (and too conservative) to sensibly and constructively update the sport: e.g., singlets, mat size, hair cuts, allowing girls to compete, scoring problems, etc. It might be changing incrementally, but it seems at times still stuck in a 1950's administrative mindset while the wrestlers themselves (and the wrestling) move along much faster: funk, recourse to videos for training, the increase in clubs, and so on.

Cunningham gets 3rd at 157. A very good tournament. Only lost a close one in the semis by 1 point.

High school wrestling needs to adopt college out of bound rules. I don't understand why they continue with what they are doing.

Do consolations last longer than the 12 days of x-mas? They go on and on and on .....

Here's a preview of the match:

You might want to show him a video on the Dunning-Kruger effect. If that doesn't work, be sure to videotape the match so that those of us who appreciate the occasional dose of Schadenfreude can watch.

Alirez vs. Van Ness would be a great match. The latter indicated he is going to be at Sr. Nationals. I think some a bunch of the PSU guys haven't registered yet.

Thanks. Are names available with the numbers?

This is the only list of registrants I've seen so far for Senior Nationals. Anyone have a more updated list or know where to find one? I think registration for seeding ends in less than a week (on the 10th): Men's Freestyle Weight First Name Last Name State Team 57 Lee Celestino TX Cowboy/Cowgirl Wrestling Club 57 Jakob Lyons OK Oklahoma 57 Cael Nasdeo PA Nittany Lion Wrestling Club 57 William Sprouse CA Central Valley High School Wrestling 57 Devan Turner IN Indiana RTC 65 Jawid Azimi TX Paradigm Wrestling 65 Chase Daudelin NY New York 65 Nathaniel Johnson AZ Arizona 65 Aydin Matanane OK Oklahoma 74 Hassan Ajami MI Michigan 74 Garrett Bass OH Green Machine Wrestling Club 74 Gabe Blough KS Spire Wrestling Club 74 Quentin LaCour TX Rise RTC 74 Joseph Sealey PA Pennsylvania 74 Michael Tantillo TX Warrior Trained Wrestling 74 Isaiah White IL Indiana RTC 86 Jared Fekete MI Marines 86 Alex Hamm FL Florida 86 Connor Mirasola WI Askren Wrestling Academy 86 Andrew Morgan NY Navy Wrestling Club 86 Martin Verhaeghe KS Tiger Den Wrestling Club 97 Austin Craig WA 10 Year Active Athlete List 97 Eulogio Rosino Dalmeida NE Nebraska 97 Cole Mirasola WI Askren Wrestling Academy 125 Malik Jones FL Florida

There is precedent: Nolf, DT, Zain, et. al.

Penn State looks flat. They are not finishing takedowns quickly or not able to get them. None of the first 5 guys were very impressive in either wins or losses. I guess Lehigh deserves some credit. They came ready to wrestle.

I think a bunch of the guys are being held out for Senior (freestyle) Nationals (Dec 15), including Van Ness, Brooks.

I don't get the really strong anti-Pyles sentiment. He's knowledgable and passionate about the sport, and especially the hundreds of wrestlers who inhabit it, including their past matches, tendencies on the mat, records, and so on. I suspect some folks don't like his asides, wisecracks, and personal opinions, and maybe some of that comes from his FRL FLO show. Who knows? I tend to prefer when he is commenting on a match with someone else as well: Bader, Taylor, Spey, etc. since can balance each other out: PBP vs. color commentary, etc.

Another upset: Carr goes down.

Carr goes down in the semis.

Has someone started the "I enjoyed the Meyer Shapiro projected 4 timer era" thread yet?

So much for the Wunderkind. Shapiro goes down. Cael's record is still safe.

Christmas colors for the dueling anti-christs (666 vs. 666)

Andonian just pinned Chittum. Looked like maybe with a hip throw to the back but I didn't catch it clearly

I was at the match. Penn wrestled Iowa tough. The crowd showed a lot of support. The Brands brothers of course were bouncing around on the sidelines. Maximus Hale ... what a name.

Is Wrestleknownothing the Billy Bean (Money Ball) of wrestling? Perhaps there is a statistical future as an advisor for a D1 team. Can he take, say, Maryland or Bloomsburg to an NCAA championship with un/orthodox analytics?

I believe that YOU now have officially been proven to be a knucklehead because you are WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Do you have any thoughts on the moon landing, the insurrection on the Capitol, or 9/11 that you might like to share?

Where have you seen this written? I don't think it is correct. Below is a quote from the USA wrestling website. It clearly implies that those who have qualified for the trials can in fact compete: "The top five finishers per weight category at the 2023 Senior Nationals will earn a spot in the U.S. Olympic Team Trials. (Note: An athlete must place in top five. If one of the top five is already qualified, no additional athletes beyond the top five are added)."

Dresser just admitted the coaches blew it. The subtending story of the match so far.