Jimmy Cinnabon

Do you mean Cory Clark who won in 2017?

Impressive streak. When was their last individual champ not named Spencer Lee?

Michigan has 5 grad transfers coming off the books...they have the bag for Hamiti.

Penn State: Return: Davis, Nagao, Kasak, Haines, MM (5) Lose: Truax, Brooks (2) Maybe: Bartlett, Starocci, Kerk (3) I think Kerk comes back. Starocci probably doesn't. Bartlett a coin flip, so probably returning 6/10 starters.

Fair. I think Kerk, Haines, and MM all win at least 2. Haines and MM could win 3.

Prime Ferrari would take it. Currently, Hidlay wins in a close one.

It would boost Iowa immediately while hurting Penn State a proportionate amount. But I'm sure they'd have to back up the Brinks truck to sway Casey.

At least in the US...I'm not familiar with international sports. Penn State wrestling's current run (11 out of the last 13 contested championships) is better than the Tom Brady Patriots, the Golden State Warriors, the late 90s-2000 Yankees, etc.

There's a rumor he'll be offered the HC job at his alma mater.

Our only data points are the Soldier Salute where he narrowly won (lost) to Zach Glazier who ended up going 1-2 at NCAAs. Would he have won 197 or HWT?

Hidlay is really good. Without Brooks he's probably a 2x NCAA champ with a Hodge (this year). Brooks is just a better Hidlay than Hidlay.

The most impressive stats here are the fact that lower seeded Penn State wrestlers are more likely to win than their higher seeded opponents in the semis and finals. This means in-match coaching and gameplanning are making the difference.

And this is why Carter is probably not coming back. He shares the view that 5 is not that special since 4xers would also have won title 5.

What will never happen again? I'm a Penn State fan and I think someone else will have a 4x undefeated career just like Cael. I certainly think someone else can win 4x titles at 4 weights (especially since there's no requirement to be undefeated).

I would be shocked if he ever regularly starts for Penn State again. There's a lot of blue chip talent incoming.

What evidence is there that Dake wasn't at his natural weight? He grew throughout his 4 years of college and hence bumped up weight classes. It's not like he shrunk down to his "natural" weight after he finished competing in college. He wrestled the optimal weight for his body as he grew.

Would you take him as the HC of your Wisconsin Badgers?

Great story - including an anecdote about Casey at 2:20 "I'll never forget it. Casey held me down for half an hour straight."

It's shocking to me that he hasn't been poached to be a head coach. Listen to any interview with former Penn State wrestlers, or watch who a Penn State wrestler hugs first after winning a NCAA title. There's a reason Penn State's most successful weights have been middleweights 157-184 over the last decade. If Iowa wants to retake the mountain making Cunningham their new HC would be the biggest, fastest and most effective move to make.

I'm not very high on Facundo. Just not enough offense.

Star said he loves wrestling but not school. I think he's done. Would love to see Hamiti win a title in blue and white.

Assuming Bartlett, Starocci and Kerkvliet don't come back. 125 Lillledahl 133 Davis 141 Kasak 149 SVN 157 Mesenbrink 165 Haines 174 [transfer - how about Dean Hamiti?] 184 [transfer - how about Parker Keckeisen?] 197 [transfer - does Michael Beard want to come home?] HWT [Kerk seems like he may come back. If not, Nathan Taylor from Lehigh?]

Yup, owning Taylor is the most impressive thing. Much more so than 4 different weights or winning as a true freshman.

Perhaps we can tier them by dominance at their peak in college Tier S - these guys make their opponents look silly; winning is so easily they just experiment with new moves during matches Ruth Taylor Zain Nolf Nickal Tier A - very dominant where the outcome is never in doubt and almost always bonus Brooks Starocci Tier B RBY Joseph Wright Lee Haines Kerk Tier C Hall Cassar Dean Brown Megaludis Molinaro Davis

Agree, and Dake was HUGE in each of those weight classes. He never looked small for the weight he was in. For example, Frank Molinaro was a hulk at 149 and Dake made him look 20 pounds lighter. Dake must have bird bones.