Jimmy Cinnabon

Frankly, I think they should be allowed to wrestle AND to bet on all the sports they want, including their own matches.

Many on this board blame Cael for single handedly killing a National Dual Championship, which I think is BS. However, assuming we could magically add a National Dual Championship does this actually change anything (i.e. does another team actually win it?) or does it just add another trophy to Penn State's trophy case each year? This year it seems pretty certain barring catastrophic injuries or illness that Penn State will win Big 10s and NCAAs. Add a dual championship and Penn State just gets another 1st place trophy, no?

"Stand back and stand by"

If the suspended wrestlers come back this suddenly goes from a boring NCAA team race to an exciting one. There would also be a logjam with the homegrown guys and all the transfers.

He's really a 141 pounder wrestling up a weight

Any type of throwing sport

A guy like Haines (at peak form) could be that 4th champ

My predictions as of this time: 125 Davis - 7th 133 Nagao - 4th 141 Bartlett - 4th 149 Kasak - R12 157 Haines - 3rd 165 Mesenbrink - 3rd 174 Starocci - 1st 184 Truax - 4th 197 Brooks - 1st Hwt Kerk - 1st

I think it was only 7 (Bartlett, SVN, Haines, Starocci, Truax, Brooks and Kerkvliet)

I think Mesenbrink is likely to end the year in the top 5. Probably not Kasak though.

Cstar, Brooks and Kerk

Only Kasak is outside the top 10. Mesenbrink at #7 is their 2nd lowest ranked wrestler. 125 Davis - 4 133 Nagao -5 141 Bartlett -2 149 Kasak - 12 157 Haines - 1 165 Mesenbrink - 7 174 Starocci - 1 184 Truax - 5 197 Brooks - 1 HWT Kerkvliet - 1

Crooham

Yes, it does. There are like 4 locations.

In the past the Young Guns Wrestling Club supplied Penn State and Iowa with their best wrestlers (Spencer Lee, Kemerer, Nolf, Vincenzo Joseph, Nico Megaludis, Josh Shields, Josh Maruca, Jimmy Gulibon, etc). But now is AWA taking over with guys like Keagen O'Toole, Mitchel Mesenbrink and the Mirasola twins? I believe the answer is yes. Whichever school can tap into the AWA pipeline will maintain dominance for the next decade.

He's no Spencer Lee, that's for sure.

Based on these rankings Iowa has to be the favorite for the team title.

https://www.ncaa.com/_flysystem/public-s3/files/24_D1Men_Ranking1_Top33[99].pdf Penn State only has 4 wrestlers in the ranking and 0 ranked #1. 125 Ayala 131 Crookham 141 Woods 149 Lovett 157 Franek 165 O'Toole 174 Ruth 184 Keckeisen 197 Hidlay HWT Hendrickson

He is still undefeated as the #1 seed at 157 but he's looked a bit off lately. He almost (and probably should have lost) to #21 Saldate yesterday and in many other matches he's not looking dominant at all. I've heard rumors that the weight cut is getting hard or perhaps a lingering injury?

Zahid Valencia?

No. But add Mesenbrink I think they could do it.

What happened?

Giving up 40+ pounds Impressive or embarassing

Technically yes, but how many matches did he actually wrestle in another college's singlet? Answer: 0

Who is Mesenbrink's Bubba Jenkins?