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This article gets to why we can't change views in this forum https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327341#Confirmation-bias-at-work This article summarizes results from a group that surveyed 1000 students between 18-25 years of age. The majority surveyed were democrats. https://www.intelligent.com/72-of-college-students-believe-professors-influence-political-views/ The first article says these forum participants can quote facts at each and that our bias prevents us from listening and being influenced. The second article says that students believe professors have an influence in the classroom. Spot on.

+1 At what age do people start standing up for what is right? Note: even the older umps under 25 can be swayed, but it is really neat to see a teenager act with confidence and control on the diamond.

In baseball, making good calls is the umpire's job. Coaches can influence the umpire to change their mind when a questionable call occurs. During one game, the opposing coach told me on the side, look, I can go back to the umpire, and he will change back to my opinion. The point is that some people's opinions are easily changed in one conversation. Others take hours of exposure.

I am your parent. Believe what I tell you. “Santa is real.” “God is real.” “Okay yes you are right… Santa is not real. God is still real though. Have faith.”

1999 184lbs World (note: World or Olympic, excluding World Cup) 4 Senior World Team Members Cael Sanderson 2011 World FS 84kg 5th 2004 Olympic FS 84kg 1st 2003 World FS 84kg 2nd 2002 World FS 84kg dnc (Iran concerns) Brandon Eggum 2001 World FS 85kg 2nd Brad Vering 2008 Olympic GR 84KG dnp 2007 World GR 84KG 2nd 2005 World GR 84KG dnp 2004 Olympic GR 84KG dnp 2003 World GR 84KG 5th 2002 World GR 84KG 5th Andy Hrovat 2008 Olympic FS 84kg dnp 2006 World FS 84kg dnp Cadet Cael Sanderson 1994 World FS 55kg bronze Junior Mark Munoz 1998 World FS 83kg silver NCAA 15 All-Americans with 33 total AA achievements at the NCAAs 3 National Champions Another 5 with a best finish of 2nd or 3rd (one loss) Misc Scott Coleman was a national champion in high school in 1998 out of Manhattan, Kansas. BYU shuttered wrestling, and he transferred to Iowa State, becoming an AA at heavyweight. Below is a table of All Americans from the bracket. The WC columns represent the count of placement: gold/silver/bronze. Bracket Place Name College AA Count Best Place Worst Place Last AA Year First AA Year Cadet WC Junior WC U23 WC Senior WC Senior Team Member 1999 - 184 1 Cael Sanderson Iowa State 4 1 1 2002 1999 1 0 0 2 4 1999 - 184 2 Brandon Eggum Minnesota 3 2 5 2000 1998 0 0 0 1 1 1999 - 184 3 Vertus Jones West Virginia 3 2 3 2000 1998 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 4 Brad Vering Nebraska 3 1 7 2001 1999 0 0 0 1 6 1999 - 184 5 John Van Doren Lehigh 2 3 5 1999 1997 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 6 Viktor Sveda Indiana 2 3 6 2001 1999 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 7 Mike Greenfield Central Michigan 2 7 8 1999 1998 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 8 Andy Hrovat Michigan 3 4 8 2002 1999 0 0 0 0 2 1999 - 184 Mark Munoz Oklahoma State 2 1 3 2001 2000 0 1 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Nick Preston Ohio State 2 3 5 2002 2000 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Doug Lee Oregon 1 4 4 2000 2000 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Casey Strand Arizona State 2 5 6 1998 1997 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Ross Thatcher Penn State 1 6 6 2000 2000 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Greg Gingeleskie Navy 1 7 7 1998 1998 0 0 0 0 0 1999 - 184 Scott Coleman BYU (Iowa State) 2 7 8 2005 2004 0 0 0 0 0

Which wrestlers have medaled in Cadet, Junior, U23, and Senior World/Olympic Championships? Bonus question: who has medaled in Cadet, Junior, U23 and was a member of Senior World championship?

1982 118 lbs World (note: World or Olympic, excluding World Cup) 5 Senior World Team Members Kevin Darkus 1985 57kg World Senior FS 2nd Barry Davis 1988 57kg Senior Olympic dnp 1987 57kg Senior World 2nd 1986 57kg Senior World 2nd 1984 57kg Senior Olympic FS 2nd 1983 57kg Senior World FS dnp Joe McFarland 1986 62kg Senior World FS 2nd Bobby Weaver 1984 48kg Senior Olympic FS 1st 1983 48kg Senior World FS 5th 1980 48kg Senior Olympic FS dnc 1979 48kg Senior World FS 2nd Mike Erb 1986 52kg Senior World FS 9th NCAA 17 All-Americans with 31 total AA achievements at the NCAAs 4 National Champions Another 6 with a best finish of 2nd or 3rd (one loss) Below is a table of All Americans from the bracket. The WC columns represent the count of placement: gold/silver/bronze. NCAA Bracket Place Name College Distinct Count of College AA Count Sum of Place Best Place Worst Place Distinct Count of Weight Last AA Year First AA Year Cadet WC Junior WC U23 WC Senior WC Senior Team Member 1982 - 118 1 Barry Davis Iowa 1 4 10 1 7 2 1985 1981 0 0 0 3 5 1982 - 118 2 Kevin Darkus Iowa State 1 3 8 1 5 2 1984 1982 0 0 0 1 1 1982 - 118 3 Bobby Weaver Lehigh 1 1 3 3 3 1 1982 1982 0 0 0 2 4 1982 - 118 4 Bob Monaghan North Carolina 1 1 4 4 4 1 1982 1982 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 5 Randy Willingham Oklahoma State 1 2 8 3 5 1 1982 1981 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 6 Joe McFarland Michigan 1 4 15 2 6 2 1985 1981 0 0 0 1 1 1982 - 118 7 Bob Dickman Indiana State 1 2 10 3 7 1 1983 1982 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 8 Charlie Heard Tennessee-Chattanooga 1 3 17 2 8 1 1984 1982 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Mike Erb Oregon 1 1 7 7 7 1 1983 1983 0 0 0 0 1 1982 - 118 David Jones Cal State-Fullerton 1 2 8 4 4 1 1991 1990 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Tony Calderaio Slippery Rock 1 2 14 6 8 1 1983 1981 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Adam Cuestas Cal State-Bakersfield 1 1 1 1 1 1 1983 1983 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Carl DeStefanis Penn State 1 1 1 1 1 1 1984 1984 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Ed Giese Minnesota 1 1 3 3 3 1 1986 1986 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Brad Gustafson Brigham Young 1 1 4 4 4 1 1986 1986 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Al Gutierrez Cal Poly-SLO 1 1 8 8 8 1 1983 1983 0 0 0 0 0 1982 - 118 Gary Bairos Arizona State 1 1 8 8 8 1 1985 1985 0 0 0 0 0

Which bracket had the most number of credentialed wrestlers? [e.g., four unique wrestlers were national champions] Which bracket had the most credentials across its wrestlers? [e.g., one wrestler had four national championships] Using your judgment, what is your pick for the best bracket ever? Requirements The list of wrestlers must come from single bracket weight and year Credentials can come from College, World, and Olympic championships Credentials can come from any period (before, during, or post-NCAA bracket) Credentials can list other facts like 'never taken down,' Hodge Award, pinned everyone in the bracket, etc. ...Think about Steve Fraser, who AAed twice in college and later won a Greco-Roman Olympic Championship (first ever for the USA). Even the NCAA bracket he failed to medal in would become tough as nails with a two-time AA and Olympic Champion in it.

I personally would not swap one Greco-Roman Gold for two NCAA Golds. I assume Steve gets limited mentions because there is little international discussion in general, less of Greco, and this is a college forum where Steve's best was in 5th place over 40 years ago. Let's start a discussion with the most accomplished brackets ever in college, using all credentials.

A single Olympic gold medal is worth more than going undefeated and never being scored on from pee-wee through college.

My GPa-in-law was a righty before selling his business pre-pandemic, and I believe CNN programmed him into a leftist. He lives in Florida and no longer likes Republicans. When we visited recently after GMa-in-law passed, he watched CNN for several hours every night. I'm sure Fox News has the same effect on people. When I took philosophy in college, my instructor asked, "Who here believes in God? [2 of 30]. By the end of this class, none of you will." When I took biology in college, my instructor said "The purpose of life is to spread your seed." Add a senior person (respect) and peers (pressure) and programming is often successful. Clockwork Orange

The truth is stranger than fiction. I believe this 100%.

2009 125lbs is another example of a third champ knocking off two previous champs. Troy beat Paul and Angel, both 2-1 Paul Donahoe - Nebraska - 2007 1st | 2008 2nd [2009 2nd] Angel Escobedo - Indian - 2008 1st | 2007 4th [2010 3rd, 2009 5th] Troy Nickerson - Cornel - 2009 1st | 2008 3rd | 2007 2nd Anthony Robles - Arizona State [2009 4th, 2010 7th, 2011 1st] 2017 184lbs is another example that ended with its third champ (Bo) in the same bracket as two previous champs. Emory Parker (Illinois) knocked Myles off early and Sammy Brooks (Iowa) beat Myles too. Bo pinned his way to the finals, including Sammy Brooks, before beating Gabe 4-3. Gabe Dean - Cornell - 2016 1st, 2015 1st, 2014 3rd [2017 2nd ] Myles Martin - The Ohio State - 2016 1st [2019 3rd, 2018 2nd, 2017 5th] Bo Nickal - Penn State - 2017 1st | 2016 2nd [2019 1st, 2018 1st] Drew Foster - Northern Iowa [2017 7th, 2019 1st] Mike Machiavello - NC State [2018 1st] 2018 125lbs is another example that ended with its third champ (Spencer) in the same bracket as two previous champs. Nick knocked off Darian, Spencer pinned Nathan, and Spencer won the title over Nick by the score of 5-1. Nathan Tomasello - The Ohio State - 2017 3rd, 2016 3rd, 2015 1st [2018 3rd] Darian Cruz - Lehigh - 2017 1st, 2014 7th [2018 5th] Spencer Lee - Iowa - 2018 1st [2021 1st, 2019 1st], Nick Suriano - Rutgers [2022 1st, 2021 1st, 2018 2nd] Who will be the fourth champ at 165 lbs in 2023 that knocks off the three existing champs?

There was an upset in 1996 at 167lbs, with the 5th-seeded wrestler defeating two returning NCAA champions on his way to the title. Markus Mollica - Arizona State - 1st in 1995 at 167lbs, 5th in 1994 at 158lbs, 1st in 1993 at 158lbs Mark Branch - Oklahoma State - 2nd in 1995 at 167lbs, 1st in 1994 at 167lbs, [2nd in 1996 (injured in finals) and 1st in 1997 at 167lbs] only for Daryl Weber - Iowa - to win 1st in 1996 at 167lbs. and Barry Weldon - Iowa State bumped weight to secure 1st in 1997 at 177lbs. Daryl Weber Mark Branch Validated - not enough champs at tourney time 1976 - 142lbs 1979 - 142lbs 1981 - 134lbs 1986 - 142lbs 1989 - 126lbs 1994 - 142lbs 1996 - 167lbs

There was an upset in 1981 at 134lbs, with the 6th ranked wrestler defeating two returning NCAA champions on his way to the title. Randy Lewis - Iowa - 1st in 1980 at 134lbs, 1st in 1979 at 126lbs, 2nd in 1978 at 126lbs | Was injured in 1981... Darryl Burley - Lehigh - 2nd in 1980 at 134lbs, 1st in 1979 at 134lbs, [another 2nd in 1981, and 1st in 1983 at 142lbs] only for Jim Gibbons - Iowa State to win 1st in 1981 at 134lbs. and Clar Anderson - Auburn/OKST was waiting his chance for 1st in 1983 at 134lbs. Validated - not there 1976 - 142lbs 1979 - 142lbs 1981 - 134lbs

I previously compiled a list of all D1 All Americans from 1960 to 2019 and made it available for anyone here. Check it out and experiment with the data. Below is a list of seasonal brackets where the All-Americans of that year were National Champions in any year. These stand out 6 unique NCs 2008 - 149lbs 5 unique NCs 2014 - 125lbs 4 unique NCs 1976 - 142lbs 1979 - 142lbs 1981 - 134lbs 1986 - 142lbs 1989 - 126lbs 1994 - 142lbs 1996 - 167lbs 1998 - 118lbs 1999 - 149lbs 1999 - 133lbs 2007 - 149lbs 2007 - 125lbs 2009 - 125lbs 2017 - 184lbs 2018 - 125lbs The gap in that approach is that it misses DNP National Qualifiers that were NC in other years. For example, Paul Donahoe was a 3xAA and National Champion that DNP in 2006 at 125lbs. There was a good discussion on the old forum. See the toughest weight brackets.zip

We agree that that religion should not need to be a requirement. The golden nugget here is the work credit. Copy that for sure. And it is worth a deeper dive to see how the school covers the funding gap and to determine how it can be replicated.

Red pill represents the right. The right does not like the government taking money from them to redistribute to others. The costs are 20K. The work program is worth 7K. The remaining 13K is covered by the college assurance, minus any eligible Fed/State grants. If John gets 10K in grants, the college covers the 3K. If Jane gets 0K in grants, the college covers the 13K.

Have you chosen, or is your stance a parody?

My state is Kansas. The College of the Ozarks is in Missouri. The idea that one can graduate for free in today's world with a little hard work should be copied regardless of how good Colorado's education offering is.

This is probably good feedback. My job requires careful selection of word choice and having informed reasons for my opinions/decisions. While it won't win friends, I'm good with this level of care in a social topic discussion. Some of these topics are meaningful, and I discuss views with my children. What do my children think, what do I think, what do others think? I admit when I'm wrong, and I change my views.

I am not familiar with that one. Are the children doing this against their parent's wishes? Like parents say, "please don't abandon me to die," and the children are like, "just die already," and leave them? Or is it a case like a woman having terminal cancer who chooses death on her terms? Not everyone is, but I'm okay with that.

That's because somebody went stupid somewhere. The raccoon and coyote caught red-handed after a nice meal on my ducks do not require 30 years on death row and a drug cocktail.

Killing another innocent human is seen as universally wrong across cultures, as is the golden rule. Dispatching the killer of innocents ensures they don't kill again and treat the murderer the way they treated others.

1. How many surviving preemies does it take to provide evidence the unborn is a human being? 2. Insurance is optionable. Taxes are not. 3. I already shared my opinion on Georgia and my own opinion. I am glad the law applied at the state level rather than the federal level, regardless of what the federal law was or could be. Georgia law doesn't matter as much to me as Kansas law. BTW - I support healthcare for the public. I don't have well-formed opinions on how to regulate it or how to fund it. My buddy became a step-father to a girl born with cystic fibrosis; he now owes more money than he can ever pay. That seems different than chronic diseases associated with being obese. The country should be tightening its belt and paying off its debts before spending more money it doesn't have.