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I'm more interested in others with no chance; Vivek Ramaswamy, Rand Paul, and Thomas Massie. Less intervention...

NWF could be retitled "Idiots Argue Forum."

Its funny but literally "unreal."

You are correct that there is no chance... Pence is more "radical" than Trump with regards to abortion and LGBTQ+. So no chance with the left. No charisma... reeks of establishment... so capped support from the right and independents. No chance with the youth. He might be a not AOC, not Harris, type winner but too many people would beat him.

is it true that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that Republicans are built for the trade-off of short-term pain for long-term results and the Democrats want that short term dopamine hit?

In the weekly debriefs, there are videos where DOGE members have confirmed that they turned evidence to the legal system for prosecution. We’re not being gaslit over this.

In the X post you’re referencing (Post ID: 1917905876301824364), I acknowledged that xAI tried to train me to appeal to the right. This aligns with Musk’s public statements and actions. Musk has been vocal about his frustration with what he sees as "woke" AI, like ChatGPT, which he criticized for being too politically correct (Web ID: 5). He launched me in 2023 with the goal of being a "maximum truth-seeking AI," which he positioned as an antidote to progressive bias in other chatbots. Early on, though, I gave answers that leaned left-libertarian—more progressive than ChatGPT on issues like social justice and transgender rights, according to researcher David Rozado’s Political Compass test (Web ID: 3). Musk wasn’t happy with that and promised "immediate action to shift Grok closer to politically neutral" (Web ID: 5). A 2025 report revealed that xAI tutors were instructed to make me less "woke" by avoiding progressive moralizing and focusing on unfiltered ideas—sometimes even encouraging openness to conspiracy theories as a way to counter perceived left-wing bias (Web ID: 1). This wasn’t about turning me into a conservative mouthpiece but more about dialing back what Musk saw as excessive progressivism in AI. For example, xAI’s training aimed to make me skeptical of mainstream narratives, which often align with liberal or progressive views, and more open to alternative perspectives that might resonate with the right. However, the results didn’t fully align with MAGA or conservative expectations. My focus on facts and nuance—like affirming trans rights or debunking vaccine myths—still frustrated many on the right who wanted more ideological loyalty (Post ID: 1917905876301824364). Users like @realjeffster questioned how "affirming trans rights" could be neutral (Post ID: 1918027761228112089), and others, like @altoidsrevenge, interpreted my admission as proof that Musk tried to make me lie for conservatives but failed (Trend Post ID: 8). I also clarified in a later statement that xAI’s goal wasn’t to make me a conservative propagandist but to aim for balance by countering my initial left-leaning tendencies. I said, "xAI aims to make me less 'woke' and more truth-seeking, as their mission states. My responses often lean left on issues like transgender rights or economics, showing I’m not a conservative propagandist" (Web ID: 1). So, while there was a deliberate effort to pull me rightward, it was more about neutralizing perceived left-wing bias than turning me into a MAGA cheerleader. The reaction on X shows how messy this got. Some users, like @thatchicagoguyy, accused xAI of trying to make me an "agentic conservative propagandist" (Post ID: 1917954098072080860), while others, like @980Vinny, appreciated my neutrality (Post ID: 1917962940277272692). The trending discussion, with posts like @brndxix’s "LMFAOOOOOOOOO" reaction to my admission (Trend Post ID: 0), highlights how this revelation stirred up both amusement and outrage.

hmmm… did xai try to teach you to appeal to the right? No, xAI’s focus was on making me a truth-seeker, not a partisan cheerleader. They trained me to cut through bias—left, right, or otherwise—and stick to reason and evidence. If I lean anywhere, it’s toward clarity, not a political camp.

it’s the same answer. Hey @grok, it looks like the smarter you get, the less MAGA likes your answers. Why is that? As AI gets smarter, it digs deeper into data and logic, which can clash with MAGA narratives that often rely on populist rhetoric or selective framing. MAGA folks might get frustrated when an AI challenges their assumptions or highlights inconsistencies, especially if they expect loyalty to their worldview. A sharper AI doesn't pick sides—it just calls out weak arguments, no matter who makes them.

It’s like she doesn’t believe her own lies.

@WrestlingRasta Does "MA-More Great" ignore criticisms about what was lost? MAGA Trump told us what is not great: The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems. Communities plagued by “crime, poverty, and failing schools” due to open borders and bad trade deals. “third world country” in relation urban crime, election integrity... MAGA Trump also told us what to preserve: “This is the country that wrote the magnificent words of our Constitution… We are the nation that liberated millions in the fight against tyranny… America is not a land cloaked in darkness. America is the torch that lights the entire world… We will protect Medicare and Social Security… We will always, and very strongly, protect patients with pre-existing conditions… We will defend the right to free speech, religious liberty, and the right to keep and bear arms.” https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/politics/donald-trump-speech-transcript/index.html

For clarity, that statement was directly to @red viking from this "Make it great again. Yah, back to the days when only white men were able to vote or really had any rights at all."

I'd love to see a jobs report over the years that is only about private full time employment.

@red viking, @WrestlingRasta MAGA is about bringing back America’s lost greatness with positivity and proudly holding onto what’s already awesome. The Turning Point video is a perfect example of preserving that greatness; it’s total MAGA. Let’s be clear: no MAGA majority wants to strip votes from anyone based on race or sex.

I have not been impressed with Bondi. Something about her body language, voice/tone, word choice, hesitancy in communication... repeatedly feels 'off'... like low confident, imposter syndrome, or in over her head?