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I wasn't sure if McCarthy ever went backward though, so I looked it up. And he did. He started with 19 no votes, stayed there for three more rounds before it grew to 21 no votes. That lasted at least through round eight. By round twelve he was down to 7 no votes. Round fourteen got him one shy.

22 no votes, up from 20 in spite of gaining 2. Bit of a gut punch for Jordan. Clearly, whatever tactics he employed overnight and into this morning were counter-productive. He has not appeared to be someone who can adjust his tactics in the past. He found something that worked for him and he stuck with it. I do not think he has the ability to zig when zagging does not work.

Let's talk about the deficit and whether it is a bi-partisan issue, a Democrat issue, or a Republican issue. Trigger warning: @Offthemat this will require some nuance. I know that is not your safe place. Only 4 of the last 14 Presidents have run a surplus in a given year. Harry Truman (D) did it in 4 of 8 years. Dwight Eisenhower (R) did it in 3 of 8 years. Lyndon Johnson (D) did it in 2 of 6 years. Bill Clinton (D) did it in 4 of 8 years. Only Harry Truman (D) and Bill Clinton (D) have run a net surplus over the entire term of their presidency. Harry Truman did it by cutting taxes and slashing spending. Bill Clinton did it by raising taxes and cutting spending. Our last two Presidents, Donald Trump (R) and Joe Biden (D) have run the largest deficits in recent history. No one can look at that first chart and argue that our current level of federal spending is appropriate. It really needs to be under 18% of GDP. It is currently at 24.5% of GDP. That is a substantial gap. Taxes at 18.9% of GDP are high enough to balance a budget and do not need to go any higher. There are no clean hands here, but it is true that the Republicans have historically run larger deficits than Democrats. Caveat: my data does not include Roosevelt's New Deal, but that only increases the Democrat deficit to -3.7% of GDP. And removing both Trump and Biden only closes the gap (-3.0% for D, -3.5% for R). The issue is bi-partisan. They are all over-spending my money. Aligning yourself so hard right makes you blind to how Republicans do it. Aligning yourself so hard left blinds you blind to how Democrats do it. But make no mistake, they both do it.

On the plus side Jordan moved one of yesterdays no votes to yes, and one absent to yes. On the minus side he appears on pace for more than 20 no votes.

Up to 17 defections with vote still ongoing Lee Zeldin is gaining momentum. Up to 3 votes.

Looks like we are getting round 3 as there are already 5 GOP defections. I blame the Democrats.

This will be exhausting and probably a waste of time but... First, the Speaker does not green light anything. Especially if the Speaker is in the minority. It is such an extreme statement that it is downright stupid. Second, this whole weaponized law enforcement story line is such a load of crap, and is usually reserved for law breakers. "The problem is not that I broke the law, the problem is that the justice system has been weaponized against me. As proof I offer the fact that I am being indicted. Full stop. (Let's not talk about whether I broke the law)." It is the shiny object used to distract. Bleeding resources, people and funds to China, Russia, Mexico and Iran? Wow, what a mish-mash of weird crap this one is. Hmmmm, funds to China? OK, stop buying iphones and other things made in China. Haha. Never gonna happen. Ditto for resources. What people are we losing to China? What people are we losing to Russia? What people are we losing to Mexico? Hell, all I hear on the board is complaints about people coming from Mexico. Losing people to Mexico is a pretty novel and very bonkers complaint form a very bonkers poster. And what people are we losing to Iran? In order the answers are none, none, negative none, and none. Allow, enact, and participate in deviancy of our children is some serious QAnon lunacy. But those kind of scare tactics work well on a guy like @Offthemat. The whole budget explode thing is hyperbole in the extreme. There was an explosion of spending in 2020 and 2021 under Trump due to pandemic free money give aways. You can argue that this was an unsuccessful attempt to buy votes. There is no doubt that government spending needs to be reigned in and the Democrats have done nowhere near enough to do so. The resulting explosion in money supply created an explosion in inflation that we are still dealing with today through higher interest rates aimed at taming it. This is a bi-partisan issue that requires a bi-partisan solution. The reality is that brinksmanship will not achieve the desired result. It has been attempted repeatedly, and it has not worked.

Has there ever been a Speaker from the minority party?

How do you function with that level of paranoia?

The answer to my question is yes.

Double Dumb. Going for Infinite Imbecile?

I take back my description of you as ignorant. You are a moron. Jordan Holm is not potentially innocent. He is guilty. Since Double Down is taken as a nickname we will have to go with Double Dumb for you.

If by little you mean zero, you would be correct. To me that means neither he, nor his staff, did any work.

So you are supposed to be there 29 minutes early? Sounds like a waste of time.

There already is a salary cap. It is zero. And the President of the NCAA is lobbying hard to keep it that way. He is on Capitol Hill asking Congress to pass a law, once and for all, declaring athletes are not employees.

Jordan's spokesman said he wants another vote today.

I have always wondered about stats like that. How are net profits determined? How are halo effects like increased enrollment, increased contributions to the endowment, and other benefits accounted for? Is it really about profit or about revenue? Do administers get paid based on profit or revenue? What does it even mean to have a profit within a non-profit (ish) institution? Certainly school Presidents treat football like it is massively profitable.

go get em, coach.

I am curious who voted 1 in the poll. I think it was after the first vote was known to fail. I want to take the other side of all their action.

I had someone who worked for me that put her degrees in her user name for our internal chat system. XXXXXJDMBA. I thought that was a bad sign. It was a bad sign.

depends on no shows and those who don't vote as it is the majority of "votes cast for a person by name." Boehner was elected without a membership majority in 2015. He got 216 votes when a majority of members would have been 218.

TBD

It is rarely unanimous, but it is also rare that a second vote is needed no matter the size of the majority. Pelosi's last election to Speaker, when Democrats held a similarly slim majority, there were two votes for others. " Multiple roll calls have been necessary only 15 times since 1789; and, at the time, not since 1923 (68th Congress), when a closely divided House needed 9 ballots to elect Frederick H. Gillett speaker" So McCarthy and now Jordan are unprecedented in the last 100 years.

it's a NY thing.