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Thank you. I had read it that way all week but wanted to make sure after I saw those matches assigned on track.

Track shows mat A and mat C matches right now for 74 and 125. Is that just showing that those matches will be up tomorrow morning on those mats? They aren't starting 2 new weight classes in this session are they?

This video is an incredible argument. It trumps anything I said.

So she is by far the most accomplished, but you don't think she is as good. And that is enough to claim Biles is unquestionably the greatest. Makes sense.

The Soviets had a woman (Larisa Latynina) win 18 Olympic medals and 9 olympic golds. Both numbers are higher than Biles. I think you can definitely make an argument for Biles, but I don't understand how you can say it's not even a question that she's better than a woman who won more golds and more medals at the same number of Olympics.

What makes Biles the greatest gymnast over the woman who had more golds, more silvers, more bronzes, and more total medals in the same number of Olympics?

This is a great way to take the worst part of another sport and bring it into wrestling.

I think he uses the extra 30-50 lbs to win easily.

I agree. Thank you for proving to me that teams constantly do this and the rare ones that get 'caught' get a slap on the wrist.

Then I guess no team has ever had unofficial contact since 2021.

Are you being serious here? You don't think professional sports agents are in contact with teams their clients don't play for? Most agencies represent players on dozens of teams and they can have legitimate talks with any team in the league with total deniability. In every pro sport guys will sign contracts in literally the first minute of free agency. Is it your opinion those contracts just happen with super fast negotiations?

I understand all of this. I think everybody does. Wrestling and non-revenue are not currently taking money from football in most cases. Football loses money at most universities. It is way more than 6-10 wrestling programs that are self funding. If it wasn't we'd be near 6-10 programs right now. Nothing is being exposed. It's been this way for a long time.

Sports losing money are already being cut. That's why programs in non-revenue sports have to grow an endowment. It's been a while since non-revenue sports just got to leech money from athletic programs. The change you are describing already happened.

I know it will change how they get paid. I meant how is being a business that cuts anything that doesn't produce be any different than how athletic departments have been operating for a long time?

I got to visit Oregon state and watch the PAC 12 tournament there this year. There was a decent crowd for that event too.

How would this make business different than what college athletics has been for over a decade?

How would this devalue wrestling? Is wrestling currently of value to these schools? If it's not of current financial value, then how would the schools getting more money make it of less value? The only current Big 12 schools with wrestling are OSU, ISU, ASU, and WV. Do you really think a bunch of extra football money and extra focus on football puts wrestling in trouble at those schools? I honestly don't even get what point you were trying to make? It reads like you saw a cool tweet and wanted to loop it into wrestling.

The sample size is tiny on true freshman champs and because of that it can't really tell you much statistically. I'd love to know a larger sample size like true freshman all-americans by weight class. That might be a large enough sample size to say something about how weight class affects a true freshman's ability to compete.

I'd definitely take Ferrari's NCAA title over anything on Downey's resume.

Nickal could win the UFC title in multiple weight classes and I still don't think he reaches the level of wealth that big donors have.

If you think accepting Brands 30 years ago is similar to accepting Ferarri now, then that's an opinion. I don't think Cael could get away with welcoming Long today. Someone will definitely take Ferrari, and I hope he grabs hold of that chance and succeeds. If he doesn't there will be plenty of accountability for plenty of people.

If they knowingly welcome someone with a sexual assault charge onto campus and anything like that happens again, things will go very ugly for everyone involved. That kind of thing lands your name in a lawsuit. That's very different than welcoming in Marstellar.

An individual champ is huge for many programs and coaches. But bringing him in is also the thing that gets you fired at a mid or lower D1 program. Most of those schools care more about the wrestling team not causing trouble than they do about the wrestling team winning. It's a big gamble for a coach.

TXUSA had a male coach convicted of assaulting a female athlete around 20 years back. A state wrestling website exposed the whole thing and the coach ended up convicted in federal court. https://www.espn.com/sports/news/story?id=2475764 This is from after that accusation. It's horrible to see that some things never change.

I would agree. I would also say that every AD has fully believed that more money equals more winning, and they have pursued money as a means of winning.