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Actually, they knew almost immediately once they had his driver's license exactly who he was. On one of the body cameras you can see them discussing it. And then after that one of the officer kicked him while he was in handcuffs.

...except cops are part of LAW enforcement. They are part of the legal system. They know the difference between a civil traffic infraction and criminal traffic offense. You're picking and choosing when you want to let words have their actual meanings within a given context. If I told you "I'm feeling blue" I'm pretty sure you'd be able to tell I was talking about feeling sad, not that I'm feeling like a color. These cops are part of the legal system, and are bound by those definitions and laws. They know they can't arrest a person simply for speeding except in certain circumstances, which were clearly not met here. These cops pushed the boundaries and stepped over thel ines of what they're allowed to do under the law. I'm sorry that this seems to offend you. Tyreek Hill did nothing wrong here other than be an asshole at the beginning, which is not an arrestable offense. IT certainly didn't warrant the multiple physical attacks he got from the police, including after he was handcuffed. Cops are given special powers within our society, and they should be held to a higher standard than the rest of society, but you would have us hold them to a lower standard. Insane.

Again, baseless claims. Have evidence before you make a claim. End of story. Otherwise, everyone just gets to say anything, evidence be damned. They could say something crazy insane and racist, like...I dunno, Haitian immigrants are eating pets, or that if Kamala wins, the White Hoise will smell like curry and you, and a certain group of people would just like, latch onto it! No no, that's too wild and craz---wait, what happened?

There is no claim. There's a promise from a disreputable source that there will be a claim coming later.

Usually one has evidence first, then makes accusations based off that evidence. Try that.

#SureJan

Me these days when AJ comes up.

Sure, Jan.

The emotional spiraling on this forum after their boy got his ass kicked by someone he's called a brain dead loser and low IQ is amazing. Take the L and move on. Nope, instead we've got cheating moderators, questions given in advance, and wireless earring microphones (as isual without any evidence of anything other than the continued belief that its literally impossible for them to lose). These forums are just basically my crazy uncle's Facebook feed now.

No, they cited him for careless driving and the did that instead of speeding because they didn't actually measure his speed, they only gave a "visual estimation" so they can't prove what his actual speed was. There's zero indication of anything relating to driving pattern or anything that would result in anything more than the civil citations issue. You give away the game immediately. Being an asshole to a cop is grounds for them physically grabbing you, throwing you to the ground, kicking you, etc. Because that's it. The only time he didn't follow directions was with regards to not leaving his window open. In every other scenario, he was compliant and following orders, even as the supposed professionals around him grabbed THE MOMENT THE CAR DOOR OPENED as he was complying with their previous orders. It's a dangerous job, not a conscription. Can't handle the feeling of potential danger? Do something else. It's not a license to manhandle people who haven't treated you with the respect you feel like you deserve. And here's the thing, most actual street cops agree with me, not you. I talk to them all the time. But these cops don't have to be respectful at all, and in fact can physically attack us regular citizens.

I, too, would avoid the issue if I were you.

This is just blatantly false. There are criminal and civil traffic infractions, and the alleged events here were civil.

He was not pulled over for criminal behavior, he was being pulled over for a moving violation, which is a civil infraction in Florida. All of these bootlicking arguments might make sense if they tried to have him get out for the car immediately, but they didn't, and these arguments about potential criminal infractions are NEVER brought up until later, after the video was released. They only escalated the situation (for the first time) because they didn't like his attitude. Then they told him to get out of the car WHICH HE WAS DOING and then they engaged him physically; after being ordered out of his car, he opened the door and within 1 second they have physically grabbed him for no reason other than the fact that they were annoyed by his lack of complete and utter immediate obedience and bowing. COps are not allowed to just grab you because they feel like it. They have to have a reasonable and articulable suspicion of a crime having occurred, which they did not and never alleged they did; that argument has been made by the bootlickers afterward. All cops have ever said, at least last I checked, was that he was uncooperative, which is not backed up at all by video. Later on he also gets grabbed by his neck and kicked, all while not having resisted physically in any way. Cops are allowed to pat you down for officer safety, but there's zero indication on the video that the multiple officers ever felt any sort of credible threat, nor is there any indication of a credible threat, nor did they ever do any sort of criminal investigation; all of that is just being added on post hoc by people that apparently want to argue that cops should be able to do whatever they want to citizens; they are not. They are supposed to DE-escalate situations, not make them 10x worse. You think cops can just put you in handcuffs every time they pull you over for speeding? They can't. And, legally, you are allowed to resist an arrest or detainment that is not lawful as long as you are not physically violent with the cops, which again, Hill was not, and he didn't even resist. Truly it's unbelievable what you all are comfortable happening to regular citizens who have not committed any crimes. Even if he had committed some sort of crime, there was no reason for the cops to make this physical. Period. End of story. They did it because they felt disrespected.

Yeah, that's what they say about Trump. A real master of strategy.

So is it like DraftKings - Politics?

What do you know about them? I've heard that it's a Peter Thiel-funded Nate Silver project, but admittedly haven't actually looked into that. I'm skeptical of Thiel, but Silver has some big hits. Any indication on the accuracy of their numbers?

61 kg: I'd put Blaze in tier 2. 70 kg: Tier 1 should be only Green and Pantaleo. Oliver out of the game too long to be automatically back in that tier. 79 kg: KOT, Dieringer, and Carr all tier 2 to me. No reason (yet) to put KOT in Tier 1, IMO. 92 kg: Until we see DT and how he looks, I think him vs. Zahid is definitely a thing. Zahid came closer to beating Brooks (and arguably should have beaten him) than DT did. DT may have just gotten old.

I ain't bringing up anything. I've always thought this would be close. She's been a better candidate than I anticipated, but candidate quality hardly matters any more, we're so calcified as a voting populace.

100%. This will still be a tight race. It doesn't matter how titanically insane Trump was tonight. Debates historically don't mean much.

*nods vigorously* or maybe even the concept of a plan.

The men got a civil traffic infraction. People in this thread keep talking about him going 100 mph, but the citation was for going 65 mph in a 40 mph zone, so it seems like this 100 mph talking point is just made up. According to the reporting, the citation says they visually estimated his speed at 60 mph. He was getting out of the car, as ordered, and yes, they grabbed him by his head and threw Hill to the ground. The only reason this happened is because the cops didn't like his attitude, i.e. his words, i.e. his freedom of speech. He was a dick to the cops, but that's not a crime, and he wasn't arrested for a crime.

He was following instructions. He's literally stepping out of the car when they grab him and throw him to the ground. The door was opened at 57 seconds of the video, and his foot is stepping out immediately, and they have already grabbed him. The lengths some will go to justify trampling on people's rights is bananas. This all happened because they didn't like how they were spoken to. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2024/09/09/police-release-video-of-confrontation-with-miami-dolphins-tyreek-hill/75152073007/

Yes, there was no reason to physically grab him and throw him to the ground. They told him to get out of the car, and he was getting out of the car. I'm not saying he was pleasant with them, but it's weird to see the First Amendment Warriors in here saying it's ok to treat someone this way due to words. And don't tell me it's because of the driving pattern, because it very CLEARLY was not the driving pattern that got him pulled out of the car, it was the attitude that they didn't like.

The fact that some of y'all are ok with how the cops treated a guy just because they didn't like his attitude is wild. Especially given how they start and escalate the physical contact for no reason at all. He's getting out of the car. Miami-Dade police are renowned throughout the state for a problem with brutality and accountability.

Trump was asked at his "policy speech" if he would commit to reducing the costs for child care and what policies he would enact. His response: "Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down — you know, I was, uh, somebody, we had Sen. Marco Rubio and my daughter, Ivanka, was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that — because child care is child care. It’s, couldn’t — you know, it’s something, you have to have it. In this country, you have to have it. But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to but they’ll get used to it very quickly. And it’s not going to stop them from doing business with us, but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s gonna take care. We’re gonna have — I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time. Coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country — because I have to say with child care, I want to stay with childcare, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth. But growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about. We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it’s, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in. We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re gonna take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about: Make America great again. We have to do it, because right now we’re a failing nation. So we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question."