Kerkvliet on the move

[nhs67]

29 minutes ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

This is a very interesting stat. Logic would say bring in a guy who cuts to 285lbs like Konrad or Coon? I looked at the senior level where it is mostly the opposite. The bigger guys rule it seems. Can't imagine Snyder trying this against Zare! I wonder why that is? Folk and Free different when it comes to Lt Heavies bumping up for the Heavyweight crown? 

Zare isn't a bigger guy, though.

[bnwtwg]

45 minutes ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

This is a very interesting stat. Logic would say bring in a guy who cuts to 285lbs like Konrad or Coon? I looked at the senior level where it is mostly the opposite. The bigger guys rule it seems. Can't imagine Snyder trying this against Zare! I wonder why that is? Folk and Free different when it comes to Lt Heavies bumping up for the Heavyweight crown? 

What does it say? That NCAA wrestling is stupid and won't adjust to 10 NCAA weight classes that align with 10 UWW weight classes.

[Hilton Head Joe]

7 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Zare isn't a bigger guy, though.

You mean like cutting to 285. He is like 260 right but too big for a Snyder bump up right? Especially in Freestyle. Some people are talking about Snyder might go up in 2028. He looks like a perfect sized 213. Surely not big for that weight. Could this RAF match be the feel out for Snyder against Parris?

[Hilton Head Joe]

7 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

What does it say? That NCAA wrestling is stupid and won't adjust to 10 NCAA weight classes that align with 10 UWW weight classes.

Very stupid. HS and the senior level have a weight class between 213-220. 197 to 285 is pretty insane spread. People have talked about trying to change but nothing ever happens. But I am not in favor of taking away a lighter weight so I bet it stays the same. 

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

Very stupid. HS and the senior level have a weight class between 213-220. 197 to 285 is pretty insane spread. People have talked about trying to change but nothing ever happens. But I am not in favor of taking away a lighter weight so I bet it stays the same. 

Thank the gods we can acquiesce more shrimps. Can anyone remind me of the most recent world champions?

86

92

97

Is gold too shiny for 125-133-141-149-157-165-174?

Edited 12 hours ago by bnwtwg
autocorrect gold to good. Not bad eh?

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

You mean like cutting to 285. He is like 260 right but too big for a Snyder bump up right? Especially in Freestyle. Some people are talking about Snyder might go up in 2028. He looks like a perfect sized 213. Surely not big for that weight. Could this RAF match be the feel out for Snyder against Parris?

Who is saying that with any clue. Go to bed.

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

You mean like cutting to 285. He is like 260 right but too big for a Snyder bump up right? Especially in Freestyle. Some people are talking about Snyder might go up in 2028. He looks like a perfect sized 213. Surely not big for that weight. Could this RAF match be the feel out for Snyder against Parris?

Clearly when people (it's me... I am people) are talking about the behemoths, they are talking about the guys who need to make weight (Akgul/Geno internationally, Konrad/Wood domestically), not the guys who are under.  Otherwise, when I had said 'we haven't had a behemoth since Konrad' I would have included Rey, because he was in that ~270-275lb range.

Zare being 'like' 260 puts him right in that range of everyone else we have at that size.  Parris, Steveson, Kerkvliet, and Pindrickson are all in that 245-260lb range.  Size isn't an issue for us right now.  We have the guys at the perfect size.

That said, some of our guys do have a problem with wrestling those bigger guys (Parris).  It isn't just about weight there, it's about body size/type.

Also, Snyder is out of his RAF match.  News broke yesterday.  I'm sorry.  I was really looking forward to that, too.  If anything, I would have preferred Snyder slim down.  He isn't the perfect size.  He is short and stubby and it is why he has trouble against many of the new 97 KG guys.

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, Hilton Head Joe said:

Very stupid. HS and the senior level have a weight class between 213-220. 197 to 285 is pretty insane spread. People have talked about trying to change but nothing ever happens. But I am not in favor of taking away a lighter weight so I bet it stays the same. 

In the grand scheme of things, the HS weight class in-between is something new in the last 20 years or so.  The jump used to be 189 to 275.

Additionally, the NCWA does have 235lbs as a weight class in between, so there is that.