Jimmy Kimmel pulled from the air

[Caveira]

Don lemon is republican right ?  Defending a private company being allowed to make decisions of who is or is not on their platform.  Similar to Disney no ?

 

[Caveira]

@1032004 Did you defend Roseanne’s free speech rights?
 

[fishbane]

6 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The bahahahahahhahah should have been your clue.  I’ll go s l o w e r next time 

So you still haven’t figured out the connection?  Yesterday the FCC chair said “We can do this the easy way or the hard way.  These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.” Before suggesting that the affiliates take action,  “Frankly I think it’s past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney, and say ’We are going to preempt — we are not going to run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out,’” 

You might not have picked up what Carr was putting down, but Nexstar did.  They require FCC approval for a merger and did exactly what he suggested.

[Caveira]

Should women do more baking than thinking?   Should men be able to grab women’s butts at work.   Well on the man shoe Kimmel sure did 

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8Sm5HKL/

Edited 9 hours ago by Caveira

[1032004]

16 minutes ago, Caveira said:

@1032004 Did you defend Roseanne’s free speech rights?
 

1) what Roseanne said was worse than what Kimmel said

2) did the FCC pressure them to fire her?

[headshuck]

Hard to say, not everything was shared on X back then.

[JimmySpeaks]

35 minutes ago, fishbane said:

So you still haven’t figured out the connection?  Yesterday the FCC chair said “We can do this the easy way or the hard way.  These companies can find ways to change conduct and take action, frankly, on Kimmel or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.” Before suggesting that the affiliates take action,  “Frankly I think it’s past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney, and say ’We are going to preempt — we are not going to run Kimmel anymore until you straighten this out,’” 

You might not have picked up what Carr was putting down, but Nexstar did.  They require FCC approval for a merger and did exactly what he suggested.

Some licensed broadcasters did push back on abc and Disney and told them we’re done carrying Kimmel and his bullshit program. Seems you completely didn’t pick that part up. 

Edited 9 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

I just watched two democrats and a republican talk about a bipartisan bill that would stop the flow of misinformation on social media.  

[Offthemat]

We may have reached a turning point.

 

[fishbane]

2 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Some licensed broadcasters did push back on abc and Disney and told them we’re done carrying Kimmel and his bullshit program. Seems you completely didn’t pick that part up. 

I understand that two affiliate groups told ABC they wouldn't air the program.  What you are leaving out is the threat of FCC action before that happened and the leverage the FCC has over the merger of the one affiliate group.  If the affiliates made the decision without the threat there wouldn't be an issue.  Making threats like that has a chilling effect on speech. 

[Caveira]

3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

1) what Roseanne said was worse than what Kimmel said

2) did the FCC pressure them to fire her?

Thank god you’re the judge of severity for speech.  We’re better off as a country 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, fishbane said:

I understand that two affiliate groups told ABC they wouldn't air the program.  What you are leaving out is the threat of FCC action before that happened and the leverage the FCC has over the merger of the one affiliate group.  If the affiliates made the decision without the threat there wouldn't be an issue.  Making threats like that has a chilling effect on speech. 

The threats happened after.  The fcc has done nothing to this point.  The market has spoken. 

Edited 4 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[mspart]

Here is how I see it.   On Monday, way before Kimmel taped his show, it was shown clearly that the shooter had turned to the left politically.   He was not a maga person at all.   Quite the opposite.   Then later, Kimmel tapes his show and in his monolog states that the MAGA Rs are doing whatever they can to disassociate themselves with the shooter.   

This wasn't a mistake.   Kimmel was clearly trying to equate the shooter with maga which was clearly demonstrated as incorrect.   Talk about disinformation and no, he was not doing this as part of a joke.   It was a statement.   The rules for a licensee is to act in the public interest.   Since when is it in the public interest to flagrantly lie to the public about an issue of the day.   Opinions can be provided etc.   But to present something as factual when it is a lie in not in the public interest and it is about time that action be taken on this kind of false reporting.   

Not only that, if Kimmel was a major money maker, Disney would not have rolled over.   They would be able to demonstrate that the show is a profit center rather than a cost center.   Unfortunately for Kimmel, he aped Colbert's use of the airwaves to lie to his audiences and his audiences tuned out.   If Johnny Carson had alienated half of his audience like these useful idiots, he would not have been the King of Late Night.   These useful idiots have alienated half the potential market and probably many on the other half as well.   Hence low ratings.   

Kimmel is a victim of his own hubris.   I think that is the main take away here.  

mspart

[fishbane]

47 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The threats happened after.  The fcc has done nothing to this point.  The market has spoken. 

The Benny Podcast was published at 2:17PM Eastern time yesterday.  The news articles that reported Kimmel being table off the air started appearing about an hour after that.  The article you linked to to start this thread was published at 3:43pm.  It is theoretically possible that the affiliates had made their decision before the podcast was published, but the decision was made public after the threats were made public.   It is inappropriate for the FCC chair to make the threats.  It either gives the wrong impression to the public or it chills free speech.  Neither should be goal.

[JimmySpeaks]

7 minutes ago, fishbane said:

The Benny Podcast was published at 2:17PM Eastern time yesterday.  The news articles that reported Kimmel being table off the air started appearing about an hour after that.  The article you linked to to start this thread was published at 3:43pm.  It is theoretically possible that the affiliates had made their decision before the podcast was published, but the decision was made public after the threats were made public.   It is inappropriate for the FCC chair to make the threats.  It either gives the wrong impression to the public or it chills free speech.  Neither should be goal.

Affiliates made their decision

fcc commissioner spoke (defended/applauded the affiliates)

abc suspends Kimmel. 
 

numerous articles I read including  USA Today are using “sounded like a threat”  not that it was a threat.  Not to mention that the fcc isn’t even sure it can follow thru on what your sayin is a threat. 

Edited 3 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[1032004]

41 minutes ago, mspart said:

Here is how I see it.   On Monday, way before Kimmel taped his show, it was shown clearly that the shooter had turned to the left politically.   He was not a maga person at all.   Quite the opposite.   Then later, Kimmel tapes his show and in his monolog states that the MAGA Rs are doing whatever they can to disassociate themselves with the shooter.   

This wasn't a mistake.   Kimmel was clearly trying to equate the shooter with maga which was clearly demonstrated as incorrect.   Talk about disinformation and no, he was not doing this as part of a joke.   It was a statement.   The rules for a licensee is to act in the public interest.   Since when is it in the public interest to flagrantly lie to the public about an issue of the day.   Opinions can be provided etc.   But to present something as factual when it is a lie in not in the public interest and it is about time that action be taken on this kind of false reporting.   

Not only that, if Kimmel was a major money maker, Disney would not have rolled over.   They would be able to demonstrate that the show is a profit center rather than a cost center.   Unfortunately for Kimmel, he aped Colbert's use of the airwaves to lie to his audiences and his audiences tuned out.   If Johnny Carson had alienated half of his audience like these useful idiots, he would not have been the King of Late Night.   These useful idiots have alienated half the potential market and probably many on the other half as well.   Hence low ratings.   

Kimmel is a victim of his own hubris.   I think that is the main take away here.  

mspart

Is this you acknowledging that Kimmel didn’t claim the shooter was MAGA?

[JimmySpeaks]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Is this you acknowledging that Kimmel didn’t claim the shooter was MAGA?

Thats what you got out of that ?   Wow 

[1032004]

7 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Thats what you got out of that ?   Wow 

Yes, that was my main takeaway.  To get deeper into his comments I’d also call out that even though it’s looking like the claims of the shooter being at least left “leaning” (direct quote from his mom) are accurate, that doesn’t mean conservatives were correct to immediately proclaim him a “far leftist” despite no evidence. In fact the “far” leftist claims appear to be false based on his discord chats.

And don’t give me “of course he’s a leftist, he killed Charlie Kirk!” since conservatives tried blaming the Democrat Minnesota lawmaker shootings on a leftist as well.  Heck some are still trying to despite all the evidence to the contrary.

[wrestlingguy]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes, that was my main takeaway.  To get deeper into his comments I’d also call out that even though it’s looking like the claims of the shooter being at least left “leaning” (direct quote from his mom) are accurate, that doesn’t mean conservatives were correct to immediately proclaim him a “far leftist” despite no evidence. In fact the “far” leftist claims appear to be false based on his discord chats.

And don’t give me “of course he’s a leftist, he killed Charlie Kirk!” since conservatives tried blaming the Democrat Minnesota lawmaker shootings on a leftist as well.  Heck some are still trying to despite all the evidence to the contrary.

My take is that anyone that goes to the lengths of killing someone is too "far" one way or the other. Whether that is far left or far right.

[JimmySpeaks]

22 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Yes, that was my main takeaway.  To get deeper into his comments I’d also call out that even though it’s looking like the claims of the shooter being at least left “leaning” (direct quote from his mom) are accurate, that doesn’t mean conservatives were correct to immediately proclaim him a “far leftist” despite no evidence. In fact the “far” leftist claims appear to be false based on his discord chats.

And don’t give me “of course he’s a leftist, he killed Charlie Kirk!” since conservatives tried blaming the Democrat Minnesota lawmaker shootings on a leftist as well.  Heck some are still trying to despite all the evidence to the contrary.

I’m going to believe his family before you. Good try though.  He loves a trans person.  Those two things alone are enough. 

[1032004]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m going to believe his family before you. Good try though.  He loves a trans person.  Those two things alone are enough. 

His mom said he was left LEANING

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

His mom said he was left LEANING

Yep. And if she knows that it means he’s not right LEANING 

Edited 2 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

His mom said he was left LEANING

I’m pretty sure he’s not a Christian or on the right anymore with biological man as a lover.  And Kimmel said he’s maga 

Edited 2 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[1032004]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I’m pretty sure he’s not a Christian or on the right anymore with biological man as a lover. 

I don’t believe Tyler Robinson to be one, but there are in fact gay Republicans and trans folks.

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I don’t believe Tyler Robinson to be one, but there are in fact gay Republicans and trans folks.

FAR FEWER than there are Democrats. Again odds are in that side.  Have been all along. Unlike what kimmel claimed.  Why do you keep avoiding what Kimmel said about Tyler being maga ??