First Intermat Rankings

[wrestlingfan22]

 

Pretty standard. The one that jumps out to me is Kade Brown being #18 at 149. He has a win from last year over #12 Clark and one from this summer over #10 Joy (Freestyle). His only loss to a guy still in college is #5 Paniro (other losses last year were to senior AAs). I am not saying he should be ranked top 10, but I am just curious about the thought process behind that, since these seem to be primarily results-based

[nhs67]

I think the thought process is that he lost to Abas last year, who lost to Fernandez (Cornell) at NCAAs and Buesgens (NC State) at ACCs.  Doesn't seem to go much further than that.

Edit:  Freestyle results don't count/matter.

Edited 4 hours ago by nhs67

[Wrestleknownothing]

They typically do not rank incoming freshmen. If you were to rank the freshmen, who would they be, and where would you rank them?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Penn State has nobody ranked at 133.  Davis is ranked at 141.  I guess this means either Blaze, Ono or (unranked) Nagao at 133.

[wrestlingfan22]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

I think the thought process is that he lost to Abas last year, who lost to Fernandez (Cornell) at NCAAs and Buesgens (NC State) at ACCs.  Doesn't seem to go much further than that.

Edit:  Freestyle results don't count/matter.

That makes sense, and I understand that freestyle doesn't count. However, Joy has no wins (although the quantity is impressive) over anyone in the top 20, so his ranking at 10 (even though his ability could warrant it) doesn't seem entirely logical to me based on the system they seemingly are employing

[wrestlingfan22]

1 hour ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

They typically do not rank incoming freshmen. If you were to rank the freshmen, who would they be, and where would you rank them?

133: Blaze 4

He might be the only guy I would rank off rip. (because you can only rank one of Duke/Kasak and Dee has no results to gauge with, on ability, he would be top 5) Other than Mendoza, I don't know of any other big name freshman who are projected to be  starting this year

 

[nhs67]

9 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

That makes sense, and I understand that freestyle doesn't count. However, Joy has no wins (although the quantity is impressive) over anyone in the top 20, so his ranking at 10 (even though his ability could warrant it) doesn't seem entirely logical to me based on the system they seemingly are employing

I agree with you on the basis of Jaxon Joy being ranked as highly as him.  He had 29 wins compared to 1 loss.  They must be giving him lofty rankings based off his quantity of wins.  He has a loss to Catrabone, who is unranked, so I'm not sure the logic.

[wrestlingfan22]

10 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

I agree with you on the basis of Jaxon Joy being ranked as highly as him.  He had 29 wins compared to 1 loss.  They must be giving him lofty rankings based off his quantity of wins.  He has a loss to Catrabone, who is unranked, so I'm not sure the logic.

Yea I am assuming they have Catrabone at 157 where he did not have that many matches so he's not ranked? Or they are waiting for the 157/165 situation to sort itself out?

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Davis is ranked at 141

When the options are beer gut or ride the pine, the only acceptable answer is to crack a Busch Latte and work on getting out from bottom.