WTF Charlie

[WrestlingRasta]

19 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Howard Stern got on the radio and said we should throw a dart at a map of the middle east and attack whatever country it hits. And that's essentially what we did, and it ended up killing a million people. Hate crimes against Arabs and Asians surged. So I don't think this is really an issue of "seeing what your heart wants to see." Those things happened.

Yes those things happened.  I did not say 100% of Americans behaved appropriately, in fact what I said was 'the actions of the few', and there were definitely some who reacted in the wrong way.   There are 350 million people in this country, and as I said, the vast majority of us united.  You can focus on what you choose.

As for throwing a dart at a map, you are 100% wrong.  The administration at the time did not at all throw a dart.   They had a specific axe to grind with a specific regime, and unfortunately used 9/11 as a justification to grind that axe.  Not at all just throwing a dart. 

[WrestlingRasta]

I'm speaking directly to those of you who want to use the clip of Kirk talking about the price of a second amendment as justification for the hideous reactions to his murder.......have you taken the time and effort to watch that discussion in its entirety, in its full context, or are you just running with the one sentence cherry picked from it and blasted all over social media?

[Paul158]

7 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

I'm speaking directly to those of you who want to use the clip of Kirk talking about the price of a second amendment as justification for the hideous reactions to his murder.......have you taken the time and effort to watch that discussion in its entirety, in its full context, or are you just running with the one sentence cherry picked from it and blasted all over social media?

I don't believe they took the time to watch the whole video. I did to see in what context he was talking about. This is what happens when they cherry pick the words out of context.

[jross]

[uncle bernard]

1 minute ago, jross said:

I'm glad you're starting to see the flaws in your worldview.

"When you have a prevailing dogma [a stereotype in your case]....and you present facts which take chunks out of this dogma, then you present people with a problem. They can either modify their worldview to include the new knowledge, or discount the new as 'bogus.'"

That is exactly what you did in this thread. You presented the common stereotypes that align with your priors as fact and rejected the ones that don't align with your priors as dangerous and incorrect. There's no more justification for "liberals are lazy/don't work hard" than there is for "conservatives are racist." But one is dogma for you and the other isn't. And that's where your thinking stops. The real world never actually comes into play.

[jross]

Please explain.

This was more about the rock's refusal to understand federal data on gun violence.

It wasn't about your head in the sand on stereotypes often being accurate based on stats.