Why don't you like undocumented immigrants?

[fishbane]

8 hours ago, El Luchador said:

I've got 1 it's tied to my SSN, and if it's a corporation then he still needs one for his personal pay that the company pays him.

I am referring the to the individual taxpayer ID number (ITIN).  This is not for a corporation.  It gets issued to individuals that are not eligible for a SSN for tax purposes.

https://www.irs.gov/tin/itin/individual-taxpayer-identification-number-itin

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What an ITIN is used for

An ITIN is issued by the IRS for federal tax purposes only.

An ITIN doesn't:

• Qualify you for Social Security benefits or the Earned Income Tax Credit
• Provide or change immigration status
• Authorize you to work legally in the U.S.
• Serve as identification outside the federal tax system

Who needs an ITIN

You need an ITIN if you have a federal tax purpose and you’re not eligible for an SSN.

[El Luchador]

1 hour ago, fishbane said:

I am referring the to the individual taxpayer ID number (ITIN).  This is not for a corporation.  It gets issued to individuals that are not eligible for a SSN for tax purposes.

https://www.irs.gov/tin/itin/individual-taxpayer-identification-number-itin

Seems like a great way to get caught. 

[fishbane]

17 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

Seems like a great way to get caught. 

Over 3 million tax returns were filed with an ITIN for tax year 2023.  The vast majority of them are probably illegal immigrants.  If someone is here illegally there exist a few ways to become legal.  All of them have some requirement to show "good moral character" or something along those lines.  Some evidence of that is paying your fair share of income tax.  If an immigrant living here illegally hopes to get a green card and eventually citizenship some day then they should file/pay taxes.

If one were to set a priority to deporting those residing here illegally I would think serious criminals would be at the top followed by those not paying their taxes and way down below them on the list would be those who either entered illegally or failed to leave, but have been paying taxes for years.  If you were to prioritize those that file and pay taxes at top of the deportation list because they are the low hanging fruit then not only do you disincentivize the illegal immigrant population from paying taxes, but every deportation results in less tax revenue.

[Caveira]

Seems like Chuck Schumer thinks illegals are parasites too 

 

[Tripnsweep]

Regardless of what type of immigrant the person is, they must file taxes and answer to the IRS without fear. the IRS is not the department of immigration and will not communicate to the Immigration authorities about your immigration status, they only care about your obligation to file a tax return and pay your taxes.

Also people who make money in illegal ways file taxes. The IRS really doesn't care. I remember there was some guy who was a drug dealer who filed taxes and posted a picture of his tax return. 

[Tripnsweep]

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/irs-guidance-thieves-drug-dealers-and-corrupt-officials/

I wonder if Trump or his underlings report any of this on their taxes. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Damn it was easy to secure the border. 

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Damn it was easy to secure the border. 

Can’t do it without new laws right ?

[JimmySpeaks]

14 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Can’t do it without new laws right ?

According to weekend at Bernie’s Joe Biden that was the case.  Guess he  

[fishbane]

7 hours ago, JimmySpeaks said:

According to weekend at Bernie’s Joe Biden that was the case.  Guess he  

It's very amusing that you are using two accounts to have a conversation with yourself. 

[Tripnsweep]

2 hours ago, fishbane said:

It's very amusing that you are using two accounts to have a conversation with yourself. 

I think that's the only conversation he has. 

[jross]

Today is you, tomorrow is me.  

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/OYj9dXgZs1

[JimmySpeaks]

6 hours ago, fishbane said:

It's very amusing that you are using two accounts to have a conversation with yourself. 

Good try.  Glad you’re easily amused though. It’s typical for a libtardo 

[JimmySpeaks]

4 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

I think that's the only conversation he has. 

Since when do you think ??  

[El Luchador]

17 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

https://taxfoundation.org/blog/irs-guidance-thieves-drug-dealers-and-corrupt-officials/

I wonder if Trump or his underlings report any of this on their taxes. 

This is some serious glass house stuff. 

[GreatWhiteNorth]

On 8/31/2025 at 5:41 PM, JimmySpeaks said:

Damn it was easy to secure the border. 

How easy was it to secure the border...

1st and foremost - the border still isn't secure. Migrants are still making their way across it EVERY DAY.

2nd - that (failed) effort cost taxpayers $165 billion - so, no, it wasn't easy at all.

In a time where our countries checking account is already overdrawn to the tune of trillions of dollars. Running up more charges in the hundreds of billions is just plain dumb.

It's just common sense that tells us this is an epic failure.

Politicians and other dopes are telling us it was some kind of success.... but it wasn't.

Throwing money at a problem to try to solve it never solves it.

That's what the Democrats used to try to do (and failed) - now it's the Republicans trying to do it (and are failing.)

Simply because that strategy will never work.

(Both parties realized it, and both parties responded the same way - declaring success. As if we're all morons.)

[El Luchador]

7 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

How easy was it to secure the border...

1st and foremost - the border still isn't secure. Migrants are still making their way across it EVERY DAY.

2nd - that (failed) effort cost taxpayers $165 billion - so, no, it wasn't easy at all.

In a time where our countries checking account is already overdrawn to the tune of trillions of dollars. Running up more charges in the hundreds of billions is just plain dumb.

It's just common sense that tells us this is an epic failure.

Politicians and other dopes are telling us it was some kind of success.... but it wasn't.

Throwing money at a problem to try to solve it never solves it.

That's what the Democrats used to try to do (and failed) - now it's the Republicans trying to do it (and are failing.)

Simply because that strategy will never work.

(Both parties realized it, and both parties responded the same way - declaring success. As if we're all morons.)

If both have failed, 1 failed way worse. 

[JimmySpeaks]

8 hours ago, GreatWhiteNorth said:

How easy was it to secure the border...

1st and foremost - the border still isn't secure. Migrants are still making their way across it EVERY DAY.

2nd - that (failed) effort cost taxpayers $165 billion - so, no, it wasn't easy at all.

In a time where our countries checking account is already overdrawn to the tune of trillions of dollars. Running up more charges in the hundreds of billions is just plain dumb.

It's just common sense that tells us this is an epic failure.

Politicians and other dopes are telling us it was some kind of success.... but it wasn't.

Throwing money at a problem to try to solve it never solves it.

That's what the Democrats used to try to do (and failed) - now it's the Republicans trying to do it (and are failing.)

Simply because that strategy will never work.

(Both parties realized it, and both parties responded the same way - declaring success. As if we're all morons.)

Must be different variations of failed in your world.  Dems failed. Trump is fixing it 

[wrestlingguy]

On 8/31/2025 at 5:15 PM, Tripnsweep said:

Regardless of what type of immigrant the person is, they must file taxes and answer to the IRS without fear. the IRS is not the department of immigration and will not communicate to the Immigration authorities about your immigration status, they only care about your obligation to file a tax return and pay your taxes.

Also people who make money in illegal ways file taxes. The IRS really doesn't care. I remember there was some guy who was a drug dealer who filed taxes and posted a picture of his tax return. 

There is a reason why people that do illegal activity accept cash. You don't pay taxes on it and keep 100% of the profit.

I would be willing to bet an extremely small percentage of people that participate in illegal activity pay taxes. 

[Tripnsweep]

1 hour ago, wrestlingguy said:

There is a reason why people that do illegal activity accept cash. You don't pay taxes on it and keep 100% of the profit.

I would be willing to bet an extremely small percentage of people that participate in illegal activity pay taxes. 

Most likely. But remember, that's how they got Al Capone. Couldn't get him on murder or racketeering, but he didn't pay his taxes. 

[wrestlingguy]

11 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Most likely. But remember, that's how they got Al Capone. Couldn't get him on murder or racketeering, but he didn't pay his taxes. 

I forgot about that.