Starving Children in Gaza

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Well for one unless they’re using Ford Rangers to make the deliveries there is little chance that is 600 trucks worth of aid.

I mean in two ish years if only 250 ish people died.  Can you really say there is widespread starvation ?

[red viking]

19 minutes ago, Caveira said:

I mean in two ish years if only 250 ish people died.  Can you really say there is widespread starvation ?

The total population is only about 2 million, probably much lower now. So 250 starvations to death with many more on the brink is pretty bad. 

[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

The total population is only about 2 million, probably much lower now. So 250 starvations to death with many more on the brink is pretty bad. 

Over a few years.  Not so much  boss.    0.0001% not sure if that is relevant to you but it’s a small number.    Mass starvation is a bigger number usually.   What your touting is emotion

[JimmySpeaks]

15 minutes ago, red viking said:

The total population is only about 2 million, probably much lower now. So 250 starvations to death with many more on the brink is pretty bad. 

Bahahahhahahaha. You’re the same guy that says crime is way down at 2% 

[El Luchador]

 

 

 

 

 

[scourge165]

4 hours ago, red viking said:

The total population is only about 2 million, probably much lower now. So 250 starvations to death with many more on the brink is pretty bad. 

Ok. That's bad. What about the 85K Children in Yemen?

If we're SOOO concerned about starving Children...and it's pretty valid concern, why are we talking about Palestine? Why not the place where it's... a FAR bigger concern?

 

I don't know how many people have starved to death in Palestine. You'd have to be a fool to believe any video from either side. Israel isn't letting aid in, Hamas, the "leaders" Palestine overwhelmingly supported...at least when they started this war, they're taking the aid.

 

I've also seen videos of Hamas shooting elderly Palestinians in the legs...10-15 times, leaving them there to die and then you later see a poorly edited video saying the IDF is going and shooting elderly men and children. 

 

 

I WILL say... remember when this never would happen if Trump was in office and he'd solve the war on day 1? Which...I assume most people knew was hyperbole, but you have people like The Luchador who...genuinely believed that nonsense? That's a bit amusing. 

[El Luchador]

5 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Ok. That's bad. What about the 85K Children in Yemen?

If we're SOOO concerned about starving Children...and it's pretty valid concern, why are we talking about Palestine? Why not the place where it's... a FAR bigger concern?

 

I don't know how many people have starved to death in Palestine. You'd have to be a fool to believe any video from either side. Israel isn't letting aid in, Hamas, the "leaders" Palestine overwhelmingly supported...at least when they started this war, they're taking the aid.

 

I've also seen videos of Hamas shooting elderly Palestinians in the legs...10-15 times, leaving them there to die and then you later see a poorly edited video saying the IDF is going and shooting elderly men and children. 

 

 

I WILL say... remember when this never would happen if Trump was in office and he'd solve the war on day 1? Which...I assume most people knew was hyperbole, but you have people like The Luchador who...genuinely believed that nonsense? That's a bit amusing. 

So you have a monopoly on the truth? How convenient.

[uncle bernard]

12 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

I kind of feel bad, but they elected Hamas so they kind of are getting what they voted for. They had to have known that Hamas was going to be more interested in trying to antagonize Israel than governing or doing things to help people. Yet they voted for them anyway. 

There was 1 election almost 20 years ago where Hamas won 43% of the vote. Over half the population of Gaza wasn't even alive when that election happened. Only a very, very small percentage of living Gazans have ever voted for Hamas. 

The context of that election is also important. It happened after 20 years of Israel undermining and backing out of the peace agreements set forth in the Oslo accords. The PA tried the peace path in good faith and Israel undermined their legitimacy among Palestinians by continuing to settle the West Bank after agreeing not to (in addition to funding Hamas the entire time). And despite all that, a majority of Palestinians still voted no to Hamas.

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

There was 1 election almost 20 years ago where Hamas won 43% of the vote. Over half the population of Gaza wasn't even alive when that election happened. Only a very, very small percentage of living Gazans have ever voted for Hamas. 

The context of that election is also important. It happened after 20 years of Israel undermining and backing out of the peace agreements set forth in the Oslo accords. The PA tried the peace path in good faith and Israel undermined their legitimacy among Palestinians by continuing to settle the West Bank after agreeing not to (in addition to funding Hamas the entire time). And despite all that, a majority of Palestinians still voted no to Hamas.

Which terrorist organization won 41.43% of the vote in that election to finish in second place.   
 

note.   Hamas received 44.45% not 43%.  
 

third place (also a terrorist org) was 4.25% so not a big threat in the election but solidifying more than 90% of the vote was for terrorists. 

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

Which terrorist organization won 41.43% of the vote in that election to finish in second place.   
 

note.   Hamas received 44.45% not 43%.  
 

third place (also a terrorist org) was 4.25% so not a big threat in the election but solidifying more than 90% of the vote was for terrorists. 

Iran deems the United States to be a terrorist organization. Does that mean they have the right to kill civilians with impunity?

[Caveira]

28 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Iran deems the United States to be a terrorist organization. Does that mean they have the right to kill civilians with impunity?

Iran is one of the largest supports of terror at a global level.  They can scratch boss.  
 

They (Iran) do 100% routinely kill their own civilians.  Yes.  You are correct there.  Kind of goes with being a terror supporter 

Edited 2 hours ago by Caveira

[uncle bernard]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Iran is one of the largest supports of terror at a global level.  They can scratch boss.  
 

They (Iran) do 100% routinely kill their own civilians.  Yes.  You are correct there.  Kind of goes with being a terror supporter 

You're too stupid to even understand the point.

[red viking]

43 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

Iran deems the United States to be a terrorist organization. Does that mean they have the right to kill civilians with impunity?

We should starve to death since we voted for Trump. We deserve it. Especially the kids here. 

[Caveira]

20 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You're too stupid to even understand the point.

I understand completely.  Don’t start a war you can’t win.   And.   Work with me here.   Release the darn hostages.  
 

give me one reason they should not release the hostages.   Give me one reason the international community wouldn’t be more supportive of them if they did so.   
 

don’t poke the bear if you don’t wanna get bit boss.  

[JimmySpeaks]

1 hour ago, uncle bernard said:

Iran deems the United States to be a terrorist organization. Does that mean they have the right to kill civilians with impunity?

Iran is not the world.  The world deems Hamas a terrorist organization.  Bit of a difference. 

[JimmySpeaks]

18 minutes ago, red viking said:

We should starve to death since we voted for Trump. We deserve it. Especially the kids here. 

Pork shoulder on the smoker today.  Mmmmmmmmmmmm

[El Luchador]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

There was 1 election almost 20 years ago where Hamas won 43% of the vote. Over half the population of Gaza wasn't even alive when that election happened. Only a very, very small percentage of living Gazans have ever voted for Hamas. 

The context of that election is also important. It happened after 20 years of Israel undermining and backing out of the peace agreements set forth in the Oslo accords. The PA tried the peace path in good faith and Israel undermined their legitimacy among Palestinians by continuing to settle the West Bank after agreeing not to (in addition to funding Hamas the entire time). And despite all that, a majority of Palestinians still voted no to Hamas.

Hamas controlled Gaza and not the West Bank. Maybe I'm mistaken but why would Gaza be given a promise about a territory they have nothing to do with. 

[Caveira]

Why won’t other Arabs / egypt help Palestinians ?  I don’t think anyone answered it 

 

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, El Luchador said:

Hamas controlled Gaza and not the West Bank. Maybe I'm mistaken but why would Gaza be given a promise about a territory they have nothing to do with. 

Not Hamas specifically, but the Palestinian people overall. Illegal West Bank settlements erode faith in the peace process for all Palestinians, not just the ones who live in the West Bank.