Making DC great again.

[ionel]

12 minutes ago, red viking said:

Of course. Another liberal conspiracy, the data is made up, etc. Nothing to back up any if the winger conspiracy theories. Hard to have an honest debate when one side claims the data is always false whenever it doesn't fit their narrative. 

Seriously, ya can't make this level of ignorance up. 

You aren't living under a rock ... you are the rock.   

[JimmySpeaks]

49 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, crime in DC has been decreasing for several years, so....no. 

They also have lots of FBI agents there. That will make a difference, but theyre being pulled from other places, so it isnt necessarily the right thing.

I'm talking specifically about the military forces. They're being pulled from their full time jobs and taxpayers are paying a lot for it. I'd like to know what my tax dollars are going toward here. 

Your tax dollars??????   You pay in federal income tax?   I highly doubt it.  

[Caveira]

58 minutes ago, red viking said:

Well, crime in DC has been decreasing for several years, so....no. 

They also have lots of FBI agents there. That will make a difference, but theyre being pulled from other places, so it isnt necessarily the right thing.

I'm talking specifically about the military forces. They're being pulled from their full time jobs and taxpayers are paying a lot for it. I'd like to know what my tax dollars are going toward here. 

The national guard have full time military jobs?

[JimmySpeaks]

50 minutes ago, red viking said:

Of course. Another liberal conspiracy, the data is made up, etc. Nothing to back up any if the winger conspiracy theories. Hard to have an honest debate when one side claims the data is always false whenever it doesn't fit their narrative. 

Seriously, ya can't make this level of ignorance up. 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/
 

 There’s an investigation going on. There’s been a suspension while they look into the changing of statistics to show violent crime is down.  The head of the DC police union (you should trust him as you love unions) doesn’t believe the stats they’re giving out.  
 

your ignorance is real 

Edited 2 hours ago by JimmySpeaks

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/
 

 There’s an investigation going on. There’s been a suspension while they look into the changing of statistics to show violent crime is down.  The head of the DC police union (you should trust him as you live unions) doesn’t believe the stats they’re giving out.  
 

your ignorance is real 

It’s been posted 50 times 

that the dc pd was faking stats.   It’s also been posted that the democrat mayor asked for national guard in front of congress.   @red viking won’t acknowledge any of those.  
 

It’s just pure unadulterated hatred of t 

even the news casters CNN are gripping they don’t feel safe etc 

Edited 3 hours ago by Caveira

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

It’s been posted 50 times 

that the dc pd was faking stats.   It’s also been posted that the democrat mayor asked for national guard in front of congress.   @red viking won’t acknowledge any of those.  

I didn’t see anything saying anyone’s been convicted yet. Just that it’s being investigated by more than one entity.  Either way it’s far from a conspiracy theory like Harry Scissons Viking says 

[Caveira]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

I didn’t see anything saying anyone’s been convicted yet. Just that it’s being investigated by more than one entity.  Either way it’s far from a conspiracy theory like Harry Scissons Viking says 

There is a 20 year old critically acclaimed show on hbo called the wire dedicating two full seasons to pd in liberal cities juking stays.   That’s their word.   It’s not like this is a new concept to help mayors look good and get re elected 

[JimmySpeaks]

5 minutes ago, Caveira said:

There is a 20 year old critically acclaimed show on hbo called the wire dedicating two full seasons to pd in liberal cities juking stays.   That’s their word.   It’s not like this is a new concept to help mayors look good and get re elected 

I fully agree that it’s happening everywhere but “The Wire” doesn’t prove it.  

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said:

I fully agree that it’s happening everywhere but “The Wire” doesn’t prove it.  

The writers didn’t make up the content it’s pretty well documented 

The creators and writers of The Wire, particularly David Simon and Ed Burns, drew on their real-world experiences and knowledge of the Baltimore criminal justice system to depict the phenomenon of "juking the stats"

. 

• David Simon, a former police reporter for The Baltimore Sun, spent a year researching a Baltimore homicide detective unit for his book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, where he met Ed Burns.
• Ed Burns, a former Baltimore police officer and later a public school teacher, provided first-hand insights into police practices and how statistics were manipulated within the department. Their combined experience and research informed the storylines, including those related to the pressure on officers to improve crime numbers, notes Medium explains. This pressure often led to tactics like reclassifying crimes to lower categories or making arrests for minor offenses to create the appearance of crime reduction, according to Medium. The Wire then extended this idea to the school system in later seasons, showcasing how similar pressures led to manipulating standardized test scores.
• Beyond their own direct experience, Ed Norris, a controversial figure convicted of corruption and with past ties to law enforcement, also worked as an actor on the show, according to The Hooded Utilitarian. 

The show's creators strove for realism, populating the series with characters based on real individuals and casting non-professional actors to portray the "faces and voices of the real city". This focus on authenticity, rooted in their journalistic and police backgrounds, was crucial in portraying the complex and often dysfunctional aspects of the institutions they explored, including the pressure to "juke the stats" within the police department. 

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/
 

 There’s an investigation going on. There’s been a suspension while they look into the changing of statistics to show violent crime is down.  The head of the DC police union (you should trust him as you love unions) doesn’t believe the stats they’re giving out.  
 

your ignorance is real 

Its a nice allegation, but that's all it is. They're a dime a dozen coming from the wingers. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

The writers didn’t make up the content it’s pretty well documented 

 

The creators and writers of The Wire, particularly David Simon and Ed Burns, drew on their real-world experiences and knowledge of the Baltimore criminal justice system to depict the phenomenon of "juking the stats"

. 

• David Simon, a former police reporter for The Baltimore Sun, spent a year researching a Baltimore homicide detective unit for his book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, where he met Ed Burns.
• Ed Burns, a former Baltimore police officer and later a public school teacher, provided first-hand insights into police practices and how statistics were manipulated within the department. Their combined experience and research informed the storylines, including those related to the pressure on officers to improve crime numbers, notes Medium explains. This pressure often led to tactics like reclassifying crimes to lower categories or making arrests for minor offenses to create the appearance of crime reduction, according to Medium. The Wire then extended this idea to the school system in later seasons, showcasing how similar pressures led to manipulating standardized test scores.
• Beyond their own direct experience, Ed Norris, a controversial figure convicted of corruption and with past ties to law enforcement, also worked as an actor on the show, according to The Hooded Utilitarian. 

The show's creators strove for realism, populating the series with characters based on real individuals and casting non-professional actors to portray the "faces and voices of the real city". This focus on authenticity, rooted in their journalistic and police backgrounds, was crucial in portraying the complex and often dysfunctional aspects of the institutions they explored, including the pressure to "juke the stats" within the police department. 

Again. Based on a “true” story has nothing to do with what’s happening in DC right now. Good lord. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

Its a nice allegation, but that's all it is. They're a dime a dozen coming from the wingers. 

You wokesters sure claim conspiracy theory a lot.  Even more than  conservatives 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

It’s a nice allegation, but that's all it is. They're a dime a dozen coming from the wingers. 

Your buddy The DC police union chief is collecting actual data on the crimes they’re being called to and the actual result because they’re finding it doesn’t match what’s being reported to the public.  Again a tad bit more than just an allegation 

[red viking]

12 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Your buddy The DC police union chief is collecting actual data on the crimes they’re being called to and the actual result because they’re finding it doesn’t match what’s being reported to the public.  Again a tad bit more than just an allegation 

So far, there's absolutely zero indication that any of this, even if true to any extent, made a significant difference. Crime has been dropping for years there. 

[El Luchador]

It's common knowledge.  I don't think it's a conspiracy it's just who they are. Liars and cheaters. Constantly relying on deception because they have no merits to their positions. 

[Caveira]

Paid protesters demand up 400% in dc lol 

 

[JimmySpeaks]

44 minutes ago, red viking said:

So far, there's absolutely zero indication that any of this, even if true to any extent, made a significant difference. Crime has been dropping for years there. 

Wrong. Even the mayor of DC said they found discrepancies in one precinct and she’s the one overseeing the publication of the info.   

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Wrong. Even the mayor of DC said they found discrepancies in one precinct and she’s the one overseeing the publication of the info.   

Evidence for "one" precinct. That's a pathetically far cry from a city wide significant deviation year after year. 

Keep drinking the Kool Aid. 

[Caveira]

Idiot protestor.  Protesting cops arresting a drug dealer.  On video are the drugs and the $$$$.   This is the left.  Yelling and screaming fascist.   Hope they arrested her too.

 

[headshuck]

Must be bonus payments for exposure.

[Caveira]

I may have found some of the more extreme vocal left people on here:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16vQeiScFD/?mibextid=wwXIfr
 

[JimmySpeaks]

58 minutes ago, red viking said:

Evidence for "one" precinct. That's a pathetically far cry from a city wide significant deviation year after year. 

Keep drinking the Kool Aid. 

Where there’s smoke there’s definitely fire 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Where there’s smoke there’s definitely fire 

And didn’t the guy who blew the whistle accuse people above him of making him do it.   So if one had logic.  It may apply across the board no? 
 

also there are only 7 precincts in dc.   I know you’re good at math because you are a geologist. …..  but that’s a decent swing to influence #s there.  

Edited 18 minutes ago by Caveira