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I know, I know. I already did a returning points thread. But now there is more. This time I am including redshirts. For a returning redshirt I used the points (and weight) scored the last time they wrestled.

More data = more fun. So here we go.

Returning AA's

Lets zig a bit before we zag. This one is about career honors rather than last year's points.

  • 133 returns the most total AA honors with 15 from 12 wrestlers.
  • 197 has the most AA's per wrestler with at least one career AA (1.8).
  • 141 has both quality and quantity with 8 wrestlers who have earned an average of 1.75 AA's per.
  • No weight has more than one returning champ, but 141 is also home to the only 2 time champ in Ohio State's Jesse Mendez.
  • Only 184 and 197 do not have a returning champ.

Note: AA honors may have been earned at a different weight than the 2026 weight listed for the wrestler on wrestlestat.

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Pretty Picture Time

Speaking of moving around weights, here are two ways to visualize the movement of returning points between weights. 

First a Chord Diagram. The color of the chord represents the previous weight. The destination weights are listed within the colored sections. The numbers around the outside are the point totals (also represented by the width of the chords).

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And finally a table.

  • Horizontal change represent consolidation in a weight. For example, 184 gained points from both 174 and 197.
  • Vertical change represents dispersion from a weight. For example, 197 gave up points to 174and 285.
  • Reading in both directions shows both sides of the coin. For example, 157 gave up 33.5 points to 165, but received 31 from 149.

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Top Ten Teams Returning Points

Hopefully this one is not too tough to read. I attempted to capture both transfers and returning redshirts (and the combination of the two) in a single chart. For example, Oklahoma State:

  • Has three returning scorers from last year's team (orange),
  • And 1 returning from redshirt (black).
  • They also picked up an Iowa State transfer who redshirted last year,
  • And an Arizona State transfer who did not.

Note: These totals do not reflect any lineup decisions. For example, PSU has 8 returning scorers of varying vintages, but some of them may not start while being replaced by a wrestler with no tournament scoring history.

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I am pumped for Illinois. I think they at least match last year's 8 NQs and they have a path to max out at 7 AAs. Very pumped for Poeta, who just received an extension through 2029.

125 Moore NQ
133 Byrd Champ
141 Pucino R12-AA
149 Gioffre ---
157 Webster AA
165 Scoles AA
174 Moore R16-AA
184 Ruth AA
197 Lautt ---
285 Luffman AA
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4 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

I am pumped for Illinois. I think they at least match last year's 8 NQs and they have a path to max out at 7 AAs. Very pumped for Poeta, who just received an extension through 2029.

125 Moore NQ
133 Byrd Champ
141 Pucino R12-AA
149 Gioffre ---
157 Webster AA
165 Scoles AA
174 Moore R16-AA
184 Ruth AA
197 Lautt ---
285 Luffman AA

Not sure I agree with all your AA predictions, but I do think we'll see a bump in productivity from Gioffre, who will be at his natural weight (after wrestling up a weight because his brother was at 149). 

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18 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

I am pumped for Illinois. I think they at least match last year's 8 NQs and they have a path to max out at 7 AAs. Very pumped for Poeta, who just received an extension through 2029.

125 Moore NQ
133 Byrd Champ
141 Pucino R12-AA
149 Gioffre ---
157 Webster AA
165 Scoles AA
174 Moore R16-AA
184 Ruth AA
197 Lautt ---
285 Luffman AA

Is it confirmed that Moore will be at 174?

Craig Henning got screwed in the 2007 NCAA Finals.

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26 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

I am pumped for Illinois. I think they at least match last year's 8 NQs and they have a path to max out at 7 AAs. Very pumped for Poeta, who just received an extension through 2029.

125 Moore NQ
133 Byrd Champ
141 Pucino R12-AA
149 Gioffre ---
157 Webster AA
165 Scoles AA
174 Moore R16-AA
184 Ruth AA
197 Lautt ---
285 Luffman AA

According to Brian Swaw, Ruth didn't get another year and so it'll be Kelly at 174 and Moore at 184. 

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3 hours ago, cowcards said:

According to Brian Swaw, Ruth didn't get another year and so it'll be Kelly at 174 and Moore at 184. 

He honestly should not have been granted a year. That one really had me scratching my head.

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3 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

Not sure I agree with all your AA predictions, but I do think we'll see a bump in productivity from Gioffre, who will be at his natural weight (after wrestling up a weight because his brother was at 149). 

I was only listing maximum potential. I do think we see a large increase of AAs after going 0-4 in the blood round last year. Pucino could BBQ or AA and I wouldn't be surprised. I think Moore is going to turn some heads this year - NQ as a true freshman and a redshirt last year. Big potential.

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