Kamala is out

[WrestlingRasta]

4 minutes ago, red viking said:

It is the for the most part. I've been down there plenty of times. Was in Gulf Shores in March for example (with the in-laws family). Yah, there was some nice stuff but we agreed that we'd rather go somewhere else next time. And driving through Mississippi and Alabama and Memphis? Some major cesspools. Absolutely horrible. 

I hear Jersey and PA are relatively beautiful this time of year.   May want to be sure to bring that mask though…

 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, scourge165 said:

Jimmy, you keep showing your arse.

Do you realize how much of the US Military is already in California?

Yep. I do.    Small peanuts.  

[scourge165]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Canada had them. Bahahhaahhahahahahaha 

if Cuba doesn’t have them there’s no way California would be allowed to become a nuclear state. 

I'm sorry, are you saying Canada didn't?

They did. And they voluntarily gave them up in the 1980s when they were trying the whole disarmament strategy. 

I'm constantly in awe of your stupidity. 

 

The State that's MOST important to the United States(just objectively speaking)...THEY'D go to War to take back their Nukes? 

That's your little theory?

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Canada had them. Bahahhaahhahahahahaha 

if Cuba doesn’t have them there’s no way California would be allowed to become a nuclear state. 

You'd have to convince the rest of the nuclear powers that they're a world threat in order to stop them. U.S, even with the current regime, couldn't do it by themselves for very long. 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Canada had them. Bahahhaahhahahahahaha 

if Cuba doesn’t have them there’s no way California would be allowed to become a nuclear state. 

You'd have to convince the rest of the nuclear powers that they're a world threat in order to stop them. U.S, even with the current regime, couldn't do it by themselves for very long. 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Canada had them. Bahahhaahhahahahahaha 

if Cuba doesn’t have them there’s no way California would be allowed to become a nuclear state. 

You'd have to convince the rest of the nuclear powers that they're a world threat in order to stop them. U.S, even with the current regime, couldn't do it by themselves for very long. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

You'd have to convince the rest of the nuclear powers that they're a world threat in order to stop them. U.S, even with the current regime, couldn't do it by themselves for very long. 

They easily can. California would be a mini Canada.  Nothing more 

[JimmySpeaks]

3 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

I'm sorry, are you saying Canada didn't?

They did. And they voluntarily gave them up in the 1980s when they were trying the whole disarmament strategy. 

I'm constantly in awe of your stupidity. 

 

The State that's MOST important to the United States(just objectively speaking)...THEY'D go to War to take back their Nukes? 

That's your little theory?

I’m sorry, does Canada have them????  Had them means they don’t anymore.  Speaking of stupidity. 

Edited Tuesday at 07:56 PM by JimmySpeaks

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, Caveira said:

 

Ds have like a 16% approval rating these days 

they're literally winning almost every or every election that is normally heavily contested. WI Supreme Court race in April was won by the Ds in a complete landslide, as an example. That's about 100x more important. 

[scourge165]

23 minutes ago, red viking said:

OMG. Yah, of course they could survive. Those guys are idiots if they argue otherwise. Why waste your time with such stupid arguments? 

I think a lot of people would end up moving out of that state/country though if water became that expensive. Most (or all) other states still wouldn't be able to touch them economically, even if they lost a lot of people.  

Again, it wouldn't become that expensive. That's the point that's trying to be conveyed here.

You wouldn't need the grid to power it.

You are aware how they're powering these massive Data Centers, right? 

 

Look up the company Oklo. You'd have them build a facility. That would power the desalination plant. Musk was absolutely right in the clip that @Caveira posted thinking he was proving me wrong but... just...basically said the exact same thing I said. 

Newsom, The Democrats in the State House, Musk, there is a consensus. Desalination is an easily and effective and now relatively cheap method to produce more than enough water. 

I'm not entirely sure why in 2025 people think it'd be cost prohibitive. 

 

Google Oklo. Again, too bad people didn't listen when I mentioned this about a year ago. It's about 700% since then. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Slow down skippy.  once is enough with the same comment.   

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, scourge165 said:

Again, it wouldn't become that expensive. That's the point that's trying to be conveyed here.

You wouldn't need the grid to power it.

You are aware how they're powering these massive Data Centers, right? 

 

Look up the company Oklo. You'd have them build a facility. That would power the desalination plant. Musk was absolutely right in the clip that @Caveira posted thinking he was proving me wrong but... just...basically said the exact same thing I said. 

Newsom, The Democrats in the State House, Musk, there is a consensus. Desalination is an easily and effective and now relatively cheap method to produce more than enough water. 

I'm not entirely sure why in 2025 people think it'd be cost prohibitive. 

 

Google Oklo. Again, too bad people didn't listen when I mentioned this about a year ago. It's about 700% since then. 

California is against nuclear everything. Their laws make it nearly impossible.  Again the tree huggers don’t want nukes 

[red viking]

5 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Again, it wouldn't become that expensive. That's the point that's trying to be conveyed here.

You wouldn't need the grid to power it.

You are aware how they're powering these massive Data Centers, right? 

 

Look up the company Oklo. You'd have them build a facility. That would power the desalination plant. Musk was absolutely right in the clip that @Caveira posted thinking he was proving me wrong but... just...basically said the exact same thing I said. 

Newsom, The Democrats in the State House, Musk, there is a consensus. Desalination is an easily and effective and now relatively cheap method to produce more than enough water. 

I'm not entirely sure why in 2025 people think it'd be cost prohibitive. 

 

Google Oklo. Again, too bad people didn't listen when I mentioned this about a year ago. It's about 700% since then. 

So, are you arguing about whether they'd be able to survive or are you now saying that it's viable for most of the state to rely upon desalinized water, and still grow all those crops? I already know and admitted that it's used in specific situations. 

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, red viking said:

So, are you arguing about whether they'd be able to survive or are you now saying that it's viable for most of the state to rely upon desalinized water, and still grow all those crops? I already know and admitted that it's used in specific situations. 

Access to the Pacific Ocean.   California has to much militarily useful land for the us to let them go. 
 

have your pipe dream.  It will never happen.   Not to mention their cozy cozy friendship with China.   The adults in the government won’t let it happen.  

[El Luchador]

3 hours ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...that was literally the TITLE OF THE THREAD and you're claiming it was my "strawman?"

 

No... god that's embarrassing for you! It was literally a thread about who poses the biggest threat to DOMESTIC terrorism! And then you even tried to post a link about "the influence of Pol Pot," from the New York Times, but you CLEARLY didn't have a subscription as it was 28 years old and it just about how he was forgotten and lived out his life in anonymity! 

 

Bud, do NOT make me link that thread and embarrass you! There's no CHANCE you're saying I'm the one who made that about Domestic Terrorism! I came in like 3 pages into the thread!

 

And I'm not getting back into this "Leftist" ideology when you refuse to accept Fascism or White Nationalists on the right wing end of the spectrum.

You know the thread is literally on the 1st page. You probably didn't notice it because it says nothing about domestic terrorism. 

[El Luchador]

OK sourge165 come out and take your lumps. A simple little admission of your error and I'll let it go. Promise. 

Edited Wednesday at 11:52 PM by El Luchador
Grammar

[JimmySpeaks]

14 minutes ago, El Luchador said:

OK sourge165 come out and take your lumps. A simple little admission of your error and I'll let it go. Promise. 

Good luck getting him to do that.  He’ll go into hiding for a couple of weeks like he just did.  

[scourge165]

On 8/5/2025 at 6:00 PM, El Luchador said:

You know the thread is literally on the 1st page. You probably didn't notice it because it says nothing about domestic terrorism. 

Dude... are you just playing stupid now or are you actually this stupid?

The TITLE is "White Supremacists are the biggest threat...."

And then it's about a domestic terrorist event that took place. 

 

This is SUCH a simple connection that to pretend it wasn't about "Domestic Terrorism," when that's quite literally the subject of the thread and the comment about "White Supremacists are the biggest threat...." which it NATURALLY follows is repeating the FBI and Homeland Security's claim that the biggest threat to Domestic Terrorism, it's pretty obvious WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC TERRORISM!

 

 

My God dude, you actually argued that Pol Pot was a bigger threat to domestic terrorism in that thread until I think you got embarrassed after posting a 1997 article about how he was an inconsequential figure upon leaving Cambodia or maybe just the fact that you denied fascists are "far right," or how Nationalists who want once race to dominate is not far right, but I can't imagine ONE person who's not named Jimmy or...who's the other one... Scout-whatever... believes YOU believe what you're saying now. 

 

They may not think White Nationalists or White Supremacists are the biggest thread, but EVERYONE knew what that thread was about unless they were living under a rock and EVERYONE knew that bringing up a man who died 28 years ago and claiming he had such a significant influence on Americans was... just a truly pathetic last grasp at a flailing and terrible argument. 

[scourge165]

On 8/5/2025 at 3:04 PM, red viking said:

So, are you arguing about whether they'd be able to survive or are you now saying that it's viable for most of the state to rely upon desalinized water, and still grow all those crops? I already know and admitted that it's used in specific situations. 

I don't think I'm being subtle about this.

If they were their own Country, they'd have NO problem using desalination to get ALL the water they'd possibly need. 

How have I been unclear about this?

 

They're their own Country. 

They have 130B in more income....and it'd be more than that as Oracle and TSLA would be paying California Taxes as Countries don't allow you to leave while all the actual work, R&D, Engineering and frankly, all of the high skilled people you need for these companies life in California. 

So it'd be a couple hundred billion more if not for the rest of the United States. 

 

-But yes, if they NEEDED to get ALL of their Water from the Ocean, they would be able to do so and they'd do so before they... I don't know what you imagine, just started dying?

-The WEALTHIEST State that has several companies that specializing in producing Nuclear power for singular facilities located in their State, a State that's already built and is TRYING to build three new massive desalination plants(but people don't want those ugly plants near them, so they were killed voted down, but you still had the funding, Newsom and the State behind them). 

 

Yes, they could both survive and thrive.

 

Of course, at the moment, they're ALSO building underground reservoirs so they can retain 95% MORE of the rain water.

 

EITHER WAY, there's no scenario in which they NEED the Colorado River to survive. 

But taking it ONE step further. EVEN IF THEY DID... the River goes into California. So they could just take it. 

 

 

So there's about a dozen reasons this is a stupid argument, but you don't need to get past the desalination. They have the resources, they now have the energy supply that can directly address that issue and if they had the need, they have the solution.

 

It's also the solution to the future and it sure as hell does not take fusion to get there. Just...good old fashion Nuclear Power Plants. 

[scourge165]

On 8/6/2025 at 6:51 PM, El Luchador said:

OK sourge165 come out and take your lumps. A simple little admission of your error and I'll let it go. Promise. 

Dude... AGAIN, the fact that 4 posts into a thread about DOMESTIC TERRORISM and a title that played into Homeland Security and FBI reports that the Biggest Threat to Domestic Security IS..... (the first part you were unable to figure out, he was arguing against that narrative). 

 

But then 4 posts in to a thread about DOMESTIC TERRORISM.... and you brought up POL POT!!!

 

And you're letting me you'll let MY "simple admission of[my] error" go? 

 

There's all types of stupid. 

There's the confidently stupid-
There is the proudly stupid
There is the ignorant, but still going to make an argument type of stupid.
There is being wrong and just saying, 'nuh-uh,' no matter how clear it is...stupid.

 

And then there's bringing up a DEPOSED Cambodian Dictator who died 28 years ago and then posting an article about how small of an impact he had in the United States, HOPING nobody else would actually read it-type stupid.

 

 

The worst is when someone is so obviously wrong, proven wrong and they STILL keep arguing it!

 

 

You didn't know what Domestic meant... and that's just...Christ dude, I'm embarrassed for you. 
You also didn't get the reference Scout was using

 

[scourge165]

On 8/5/2025 at 2:46 PM, red viking said:

It is the for the most part. I've been down there plenty of times. Was in Gulf Shores in March for example (with the in-laws family). Yah, there was some nice stuff but we agreed that we'd rather go somewhere else next time. And driving through Mississippi and Alabama and Memphis? Some major cesspools. Absolutely horrible. 

Great. Drive through any QUARTER of the Country and you're going to go through some "cesspools."

Drive through the Midwest. Illinois is one of the most boring states in the country into Oklahoma. Hell, the Southwest, AZ, Texas... god that is miserable.  Also PLENTY of Meth Towns and you have Chicago or whatever city you want to cite. 

 

You sound like Trump and it's not a good look. 

 

Southern Hospitality is real, the Country down there is beautiful. The poverty is striking and obviously an issue, but to call the South a Cesspool... again, it's something Trump would say about Haiti(which IS a cesspool) and you'd be up in arms about that. 

 

Also, you can prefer to go elsewhere for your next vacation... not really an anecdote that's particularly convincing here as I don't think I'd want to go to the Gulf for vacation either. I like to fly and leave the Country for vacation. 

 

Edited 12 hours ago by scourge165

[scourge165]

On 8/5/2025 at 2:51 PM, Caveira said:

 

Ds have like a 16% approval rating these days 

You realize the "Ds" are also "more favorable" in polls than Republicans, right?

[Caveira]

57 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Oracle and TSLA would be paying California Taxes as Countries don't allow you to leave while all the actual work, R&D, Engineering and frankly, all of the high skilled people you need for these companies life in California. 

More than 85% of oracles employees don’t live or work in California. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

They have 130B in more income....

I wish I had a 130b in more income.  

California Faces a $68 Billion Deficit. Largely as a result of a severe revenue decline…

https://lao.ca.gov/reports/2023/4819/2024-25-Fiscal-Outlook-120723.pdf

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, scourge165 said:

Pol Pot

 

53 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

And then there's bringing up a DEPOSED Cambodian Dictator who died 28 years ago

You have the strangest boner for pol pot boss.  No need to bring it up every other time you say words.  
 

Your yelling into and echo chamber and no one is yelling back.  It’s sort of weird.  

Edited 11 hours ago by Caveira