Penn State cuts wrestling?

[The Kid]

8 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

It's pretty normal to post tweets here. You're the first I've seen criticize doing so and I haven't seen you complain about it until now. The timing is probably a coincidence. 

Regardless, the tweets are relevant here. Relevant factors:

• an award to a collegiate wrestler, 
• the wrestler has been accused of some awful things,
• SafeSport is apparently looking into it,
• SafeSport was apparently unaware until some time in June (probably after June 14,
• the wife of an affected wrestler posted about it (the wife has been a frequent topic here),
• a poster noted the response from some PSU fans has been in poor taste,
• you said said the poster is making it up,
• the poster provided evidence

You were wrong. It happens. Better to just acknowledge it and move on rather than move the goal posts and pretend it's a problem for someone to share a tweet on here. 

Stop making sense.

The psu fans demand you look the other way agsin.

It's their culture (cult of coach cael).

Edited July 11 by The Kid

[Caveira]

12 minutes ago, OriginalAxon said:

You seem like a highly level headed and rational human being. Clearly you were not invested in hating a certain team prior to this and just using it to further your crusade. Did you bring up the other wrestling teams that have wrestlers or coaches similarly accused in the past with such veracity? If not it might be a reflective moment.

More wrestling talk and data sets please!

Don’t like it when happy valley is under a microscope?

[Wrestleknownothing]

13 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

It's pretty normal to post tweets here. You're the first I've seen criticize doing so and I haven't seen you complain about it until now. The timing is probably a coincidence. 

Regardless, the tweets are relevant here. Relevant factors:

• an award to a collegiate wrestler, 
• the wrestler has been accused of some awful things,
• SafeSport is apparently looking into it,
• SafeSport was apparently unaware until some time in June (probably after June 14,
• the wife of an affected wrestler posted about it (the wife has been a frequent topic here),
• a poster noted the response from some PSU fans has been in poor taste,
• you said said the poster is making it up,
• the poster provided evidence

You were wrong. It happens. Better to just acknowledge it and move on rather than move the goal posts and pretend it's a problem for someone to share a tweet on here. 

@Caveira has a maniacal obsession with PSU to the point he should seek professional help. He came on here to accuse PSU fans of being vile by using Tweets. Not the words of PSU fans on this board. Tweets. How does he know they are PSU fans making those comments? It is not like it is a wrestling message board where there is self-selection. It is Twitter, home to every misogynist whack job on the planet. For all we know it is a chatbot spitting out the hate. Last week Grok started calling itself MechaHitler and argued for mass exterminations. Leave the Twitter hate on Twitter.

Or, @Caveira, if you really want to be a crusader for social justice, quit hiding on Intermat with your criticism of people elsewhere. Go on Twitter and let those haters know what you really think. Get in their DMs. Talk some sense into them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised by their willingness to listen to your reasonable takes..

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

@Caveira has a maniacal obsession with PSU to the point he should seek professional help. He came on here to accuse PSU fans of being vile by using Tweets. Not the words of PSU fans on this board. Tweets. How does he know they are PSU fans making those comments? It is not like it is a wrestling message board where there is self-selection. It is Twitter, home to every misogynist whack job on the planet. For all we know it is a chatbot spitting out the hate. Last week Grok started calling itself MechaHitler and argued for mass exterminations. Leave the Twitter hate on Twitter.

Or, @Caveira, if you really want to be a crusader for social justice, quit hiding on Intermat with your criticism of people elsewhere. Go on Twitter and let those haters know what you really think. Get in their DMs. Talk some sense into them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised by their willingness to listen to your reasonable takes..

And I’ll leave the psu apologists and defenders right here.  

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

@Caveira has a maniacal obsession with PSU to the point he should seek professional help. He came on here to accuse PSU fans of being vile by using Tweets. Not the words of PSU fans on this board. Tweets. How does he know they are PSU fans making those comments? It is not like it is a wrestling message board where there is self-selection. It is Twitter, home to every misogynist whack job on the planet. For all we know it is a chatbot spitting out the hate. Last week Grok started calling itself MechaHitler and argued for mass exterminations. Leave the Twitter hate on Twitter.

Or, @Caveira, if you really want to be a crusader for social justice, quit hiding on Intermat with your criticism of people elsewhere. Go on Twitter and let those haters know what you really think. Get in their DMs. Talk some sense into them. I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised by their willingness to listen to your reasonable takes..

Last post for a bit on the topic but.  
 

like I said.  I only posted the comment it appears there is new info in so far as beau’s wife thinks it wasn’t reported.  I commented the psu mob made nasty comments.  I wasn’t going to post more tweets.  If you look back I have not done that, As it doesn’t add to the discussion.   You had to make a comment I made it up so I posted them.  
 

maybe I’ll constantly post a daily update of tweets now.  If that makes you happy.  

[ionel]

[flyingcement]

26 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Last post for a bit on the topic but.  
 

like I said.  I only posted the comment it appears there is new info in so far as beau’s wife thinks it wasn’t reported.  I commented the psu mob made nasty comments.  I wasn’t going to post more tweets.  If you look back I have not done that, As it doesn’t add to the discussion.   You had to make a comment I made it up so I posted them.  
 

maybe I’ll constantly post a daily update of tweets now.  If that makes you happy.  

I don' think WKN is concerned about the nature of what it is that you want to do.  But he seems to be a guy that is very comfortably calling it out when he sees it.  I'll let him speak for himself, but that's my take.  It seems pretty obvious that all large fan bases would have their share of idiots, but a person named MJ on twitter doesn't have a opinion that seems relevant to this situation.  Sharing Mrs. Bartlett's post would be one thing, but the sharing of the comment below seemed to be deliberately antagonistic.

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I don' think WKN is concerned about the nature of what it is that you want to do.  But he seems to be a guy that is very comfortably calling it out when he sees it.  I'll let him speak for himself, but that's my take.  It seems pretty obvious that all large fan bases would have their share of idiots, but a person named MJ on twitter doesn't have an opinion that seems relevant to this situation.  Sharing Mrs. Bartlett's post would be one thing, but the sharing of the comment below seemed to be deliberately antagonistic.

The meat of the post is it doesn’t appear to have been reported to safe sport.  The second part is just meh boss.

 

Like I said.  I only posted mj or whoever’s tweet(s) as wnk said I make up these things in my head.  
 

making a meal out of knuckle head twitter posts on top of the new accusation is distracting from the actual new accusation.  

Edited July 11 by Caveira

[flyingcement]

Just now, Caveira said:

The meat of the post is it doesn’t appear to have been reported to safe sport.  The second part is just meh boss.

 

Like I said.  I only posted mj or whoever’s tweet(s) as wnk said I make up these things in my head.  

If I misinterpreted I apologize.  But to be fair, I think you can admit that you have represented yourself on these boards so far as someone who really likes Iowa and really doesn't like Penn State.  And this is what plays into the ease of the assumption

[Caveira]

Just now, flyingcement said:

If I misinterpreted I apologize.  But to be fair, I think you can admit that you have represented yourself on these boards so far as someone who really likes Iowa and really doesn't like Penn State.  And this is what plays into the ease of the assumption

100% I don’t like psu.  So what.   Tbh.  I never hated psu until I was introduced to psu fans.   

[flyingcement]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

100% I don’t like psu.  So what.   Tbh.  I never hated psu until I was introduced to psu fans.   

I'm just sayin the context of a person is important in how we understand their message.  

[Caveira]

Just now, flyingcement said:

I'm just sayin the context of a person is important in how we understand their message.  

Fair.   Fair.  

[yubfrontin]

2 hours ago, OriginalAxon said:

You seem like a highly level headed and rational human being. Clearly you were not invested in hating a certain team prior to this and just using it to further your crusade. Did you bring up the other wrestling teams that have wrestlers or coaches similarly accused in the past with such veracity? If not it might be a reflective moment.

More wrestling talk and data sets please!

I can’t think of another wrestler or coach that has been ACCUSED of sexually assaulting teammates, stealing from teammates, and raping that is also a 5xer. Pretty unique.