"We didn't kill enough Indians."

[Bigbrog]

9 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

That's like saying you aren't racist because you have black friends. 

So no matter what the evidence is that he isn't racist and even though there isn't any evidence that he is, he is still racist to you...got it!  And what does any of that have to do with killing Indians??

People like you who throw the term and accusation of being racist around so carelessly that it reduces the impact and importance of the term, which is a terrible thing to do and shouldn't happen.

[Bigbrog]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

We already knew these people were bigots. What's surprising is how brazen they've become. They just put it out in the open and know that nobody will go after them. Even if they do, Trump will pardon them anyway.  I guess Trump has emboldened them. 

Let's try this for the 134th time....Who are "these people"?  And how are they "brazen"?  If you can even remotely answer those questions, then what evidence do you have that "Trump will pardon them anyway" and how has "Trump emboldened them"??

 

[WrestlingRasta]

13 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So no matter what the evidence is that he isn't racist and even though there isn't any evidence that he is

Well, there certainly is evidence, going all the way back to the 70’s, voting results and some policy decisions aside.  Powerful people can certainly do things “for” minorities, but for their own personal gain, having personal disdain for said minorities. 
 

Ever hear about the LA Clippers??

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well, there certainly is evidence, going all the way back to the 70’s, voting results and some policy decisions aside.  Powerful people can certainly do things “for” minorities, but for their own personal gain, having personal disdain for said minorities. 
 

Ever hear about the LA Clippers??

Proceeds to state no evidence and change the topic?

[WrestlingRasta]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Proceeds to state no evidence and change the topic?

How did I change the topic? Using an example of the LA Clippers to explain what I was talking about??

I don’t have a requirement to state evidence, I don’t know why people act like this anonymous message opinion board operates as a court of law. I just stated there are plenty of examples of it. 
 

But to play along: settling lawsuits for housing discrimination, and then getting sued again for continuing the same practices after the settlement, could certainly be argued as evidence.  That was a while ago.  More recently, lying to the American people about the set up with the El Salvador prison, which has now been proven by the testimony of the Slavadorian gov’t, which included lies about minorities deported there who weren’t supposed to be and/or shouldn’t have been deported, certainly can be argued as evidence.   That’s just two examples on the opposite ends of 50 years, and there are plenty of examples in between that could certainly be argued as evidence.  

[Bigbrog]

4 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well, there certainly is evidence, going all the way back to the 70’s, voting results and some policy decisions aside.  Powerful people can certainly do things “for” minorities, but for their own personal gain, having personal disdain for said minorities. 
 

Ever hear about the LA Clippers??

 In regard to the Clippers!  

The way I look at it has to do with perspective...I have no problem holding someone responsible for what they may have done and said in the 70's, but only by the societal norms of the 70's, not by current standards.  People that were not racist at heart did and said things in the 70's that by today's societal norms would sound and seem very racist...heck watch movies from the 70's, 80's, and even the 90's and based on today's societal norms one would be like sheesh, that seems really racist; however, at the time it did not.

Anyway, didn't mean to harp on the 70's thing, but I guess it is all about perspective.  As I have said repeatedly, I personally don't like Trump's personality, he is brash, rude, and very arrogant; however, I am able to not look at him through a constant negative lens and perspective that some, like you, have and do.  And that is fine to have one's own perspective, but I just don't like when people use that 100% negative perspective of someone to twist and turn things into claims about the person that I personally have never witness or heard the man say that I would consider "racist"...and the "proof" that some try to use is either them playing mental gymnastics to make crazy leaps , or they are using things done/said in the past and applying today's societal norms to it that when said and done at the time was not considered "racist".

Anyway, just my perspective on things...everyone is entitled to their own.  

[WrestlingRasta]

6 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

 In regard to the Clippers!  
I don’t know why you laugh at that.  That situation was a perfect example of someone who has obvious disdain for black people but will hire them for his own personal gain  

The way I look at it has to do with perspective...I have no problem holding someone responsible for what they may have done and said in the 70's, but only by the societal norms of the 70's, not by current standards.  People that were not racist at heart did and said things in the 70's that by today's societal norms would sound and seem very racist...heck watch movies from the 70's, 80's, and even the 90's and based on today's societal norms one would be like sheesh, that seems really racist; however, at the time it did not. 
 

Refusing housing because of race is racist now, and it was in the 70‘s as well  Repeating the practice after being held liable for it is even more so.  That is not ‘societal norms’  
 

As I have said repeatedly, I personally don't like Trump's personality, he is brash, rude, and very arrogant;

Yes you repeatedly say that, yet you also repeatedly take issue with anyone and anytime someone has a criticsm of him, and refuse to see anyway where that criticsm may be justified, throwing around TDS anytime someone dare think he may be wrong.  Is he above reproach?  Does he never do anything ever that warrants criticsm? 

however, I am able to not look at him through a constant negative lens and perspective that some, like you, have and do.  
 

Selective memory.  I call it like I see it, you yourself said I was an ‘equal opportunity caller’  It just seems that whether or not you agree with my opinion dictates where you think my opinion comes from.  I have agreed with things he has done.  I have done so here….Alligator Alcatraz being the most recent example.  Yes I am not in favor of a lot of what he does, so I will disagree with more than I agree.  But I will, and have, called it both ways.  Unlike how you cannot fathom how he can be criticized, I on the other hand can talk about the moves that I agree with. 

twist and turn things into claims about the person that I personally have never witness or heard the man say that I would consider "racist"

So if you didn’t read or hear something, then it never happened?  Or if you did and just have a different view of it, it’s just automatically “TDS”?   Isn’t that along the same lines of what you’re always jumping all over people about? 

  

 

[Tripnsweep]

I'll just let this speak for itself. Because it's totally not racist. 

 

  In the 1980s, Trump took his racism to Atlantic City. This is Donald 

Trump at his best. He cheated, coerced, filed bankruptcy, did anything 

he could to cheat people out of money. In the process, his racism came 

to the forefront in Atlantic City. Trump was accused of making his 

African-American employees move off the casino floor when he didn't 

want to see them, which was any time he came to the casino. One 

employee, Kip Brown, said:

 

       When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would 

     order all the black people off the floor. It was the 

     eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: they put us 

     all in the back.

 

  Trump was later fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Casino Control 

Commission for that act of disgusting racism.

  In the 1990s, John O'Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza 

Hotel and Casino, wrote a book about his time working with Donald 

Trump. O'Donnell reported that Trump frequently denigrated African 

Americans. He remembers a lot, but he specifically remembers Trump 

saying of his accountants:

 

       I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. 

     Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of 

     people I want counting my money are short guys that wear 

     yarmulkes every day.

 

  How about that?

 

     I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. 

     Black guys counting my money! I hate it.

 

  Those are words from Donald Trump's mouth.

 

     The only kind of people I want counting my money are short 

     guys that wear yarmulkes every day.

 

  That is what he said.

  Speaking of another African-American employee, Trump told O'Donnell:

 

       I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault 

     because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I 

     believe that.

[Caveira]

Just now, Tripnsweep said:

I'll just let this speak for itself. Because it's totally not racist. 

 

  In the 1980s, Trump took his racism to Atlantic City. This is Donald 

Trump at his best. He cheated, coerced, filed bankruptcy, did anything 

he could to cheat people out of money. In the process, his racism came 

to the forefront in Atlantic City. Trump was accused of making his 

African-American employees move off the casino floor when he didn't 

want to see them, which was any time he came to the casino. One 

employee, Kip Brown, said:

 

       When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would 

     order all the black people off the floor. It was the 

     eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: they put us 

     all in the back.

 

  Trump was later fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Casino Control 

Commission for that act of disgusting racism.

  In the 1990s, John O'Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza 

Hotel and Casino, wrote a book about his time working with Donald 

Trump. O'Donnell reported that Trump frequently denigrated African 

Americans. He remembers a lot, but he specifically remembers Trump 

saying of his accountants:

 

       I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. 

     Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of 

     people I want counting my money are short guys that wear 

     yarmulkes every day.

 

  How about that?

 

     I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. 

     Black guys counting my money! I hate it.

 

  Those are words from Donald Trump's mouth.

 

     The only kind of people I want counting my money are short 

     guys that wear yarmulkes every day.

 

  That is what he said.

  Speaking of another African-American employee, Trump told O'Donnell:

 

       I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault 

     because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I 

     believe that.

So much evidence there.    

[red viking]

2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Let's try this for the 134th time....Who are "these people"?  And how are they "brazen"?  If you can even remotely answer those questions, then what evidence do you have that "Trump will pardon them anyway" and how has "Trump emboldened them"??

 

These people = MAGA trumptards. Trump pardons those loyal to him. He doesn't care what they did. Ɓrazen is when you openly put your bigotry on display. 

[Caveira]

Just now, red viking said:

These people = MAGA trumptards. Trump pardons those loyal to him. He doesn't care what they did. Ɓrazen is when you openly put your bigotry on display. 

Did Biden pardon those who were loyal to him.  Or disloyal ?

[red viking]

13 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Did Biden pardon those who were loyal to him.  Or disloyal ?

More deflections, as expected. 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

More deflections, as expected. 

Deflections.  Or something that happened a few months ago?

[Caveira]

24 minutes ago, red viking said:

More deflections, as expected. 

Left.   He’s an animal he may do what my team just did. 
 

right.  I mean you just told us what your team did and why it’s despicable.  
 

left.   Don’t talk about the past it’s irrelevant.   Damn whataboutism 

[JimmySpeaks]

27 minutes ago, red viking said:

More deflections, as expected. 

More facts that you ignore. As expected. 

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

More facts that you ignore. As expected. 

Trumptard is president. The deflections to democrats from the past get old. None of the pathetic and gutless wingers are willing to defend trumps corruption. 

[JimmySpeaks]

14 minutes ago, red viking said:

Trumptard is president. The deflections to democrats from the past get old. None of the pathetic and gutless wingers are willing to defend trumps corruption. 

And MushBiden was President.  While he was you ignored the fact that he was mush. You ignored that Dems knew he was mush and tried to hide it.   You can’t handle when your hypocrisy is thrown back at you.  

[JimmySpeaks]

16 minutes ago, red viking said:

Trumptard is president. The deflections to democrats from the past get old. None of the pathetic and gutless wingers are willing to defend trumps corruption. 

No matter how corrupt the orange man is he’s still better for the future of America than a progressive Marxist like Kameltoe would have been. It’s that simple. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Slip N Tweet is more prejudiced than Trump is racist.  

[headshuck]

Gets things done that’s for sure. In today’s news, Brennen and Comey under investigation by the FBI. Speaking of slime balls.

[ionel]

8 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

Not that the far right really has to hide their dislike of minorities anymore....

... but what about the Vikings? 

[red viking]

17 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

And MushBiden was President.  While he was you ignored the fact that he was mush. You ignored that Dems knew he was mush and tried to hide it.   You can’t handle when your hypocrisy is thrown back at you.  

That's another winger lie. Dime a dozen.i wanted a different nominee. Never said Biden was great and I criticized him plenty of times. Lots of democrats did. It's called integrity. Something wingers have none of. 

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

That's another winger lie. Dime a dozen.i wanted a different nominee. Never said Biden was great and I criticized him plenty of times. Lots of democrats did. It's called integrity. Something wingers have none of. 

Why don’t you show us “plenty of times” that you criticized Biden.  Never happened. You wokesters lie more than Trump 

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Why don’t you show us “plenty of times” that you criticized Biden.  Never happened. You wokesters lie more than Trump 

I said several times that he contributed to inflation. When did u criticize Trump you gutless hypocrite? 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

I said several times that he contributed to inflation. When did u criticize Trump you gutless hypocrite? 

Is plenty now several?