Swiss womens soccer owned by u15 boys team 7-1

[red viking]

4 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

go to the college forum and find the thread about 

'with all this trans stuff going on...

or something to that effect

Somebody made that claim there? B.s. I'm not wasting my time. 

[mspart]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

Who said men don't have an advantage in most sports? 

Another strawman. 

"who said men don't have an advantage in most sports?"   RV your question reveals that you are saying that men have an advantage in most sports.   That is how that deconstructs.   That  being the case, why is it your position that we should not stop men from competing against women in most sports?  Then why allow them to compete.   Because it is such a small issue?   Shouldn't it not be done because of what you just said, that men have the advantage?   I could deconstruct your statement further to say - men have an advantage in most sports and that is why there are mens and womens sports because they are for men and the other is for women.  

This is also what you are saying.   So why do you support men competing with women?   It doesn't matter how many do it or whatever, it is wrong and you have now admitted that it is wrong and your position that this is not an issue that we need to be concerned about is wrong.

When under 15 can completely destroy adult professional women in soccer, there is no question to this topic.  It is not a strawman, it demonstrates the fallacy of those accepting men (trans women) competing with women saying they are women too because they say they are women.   There are plenty of people that have said Trans Women are women.  There is not even a question about that. 

mspart

[red viking]

14 minutes ago, mspart said:

"who said men don't have an advantage in most sports?"   RV your question reveals that you are saying that men have an advantage in most sports.   That is how that deconstructs.   That  being the case, why is it your position that we should not stop men from competing against women in most sports?  Then why allow them to compete.   Because it is such a small issue?   Shouldn't it not be done because of what you just said, that men have the advantage?   I could deconstruct your statement further to say - men have an advantage in most sports and that is why there are mens and womens sports because they are for men and the other is for women.  

This is also what you are saying.   So why do you support men competing with women?   It doesn't matter how many do it or whatever, it is wrong and you have now admitted that it is wrong and your position that this is not an issue that we need to be concerned about is wrong.

When under 15 can completely destroy adult professional women in soccer, there is no question to this topic.  It is not a strawman, it demonstrates the fallacy of those accepting men (trans women) competing with women saying they are women too because they say they are women.   There are plenty of people that have said Trans Women are women.  There is not even a question about that. 

mspart

Where did I say I support men competing vs women? 

I said I don't see it as nearly as important as other issues like the economy, wars, basic rights, etc. Dumb for president to get involved in this. However, I do like the concept of keeping trans out of women's sports. I'm not gonna make it a priority in my life though. Get it? 

NCAA can run their own organization. I may not like how they do it but that doesn't mean I want to force my preferences upon them. 

Edited 10 hours ago by red viking

[mspart]

Nice back pedaling.  By saying you don't want anyone to do anything about it, you support it.   You don't want the government to say this is wrong, because it is not a big enough thing to go after.   Yet you admit that men have advantage and that equates to possible injuries to women, and opportunities not realized by women because a man beat them.   And you support that by your live and let live mentality.   You are trying to have it both ways and that is not possible. 

mspart

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

Nice back pedaling.  By saying you don't want anyone to do anything about it, you support it.   You don't want the government to say this is wrong, because it is not a big enough thing to go after.   Yet you admit that men have advantage and that equates to possible injuries to women, and opportunities not realized by women because a man beat them.   And you support that by your live and let live mentality.   You are trying to have it both ways and that is not possible. 

mspart

It's very simple. I support keeping trans out of female sports but don't think federal govt should tell states or NCAA how to run their organizations. 

If I see trans doing girls wrestling here in WI where I'm involved in that specific sport, then I get involved. I shouldn't try to tell other states how to conduct their sports though. 

Simple concept. Basic rights for local govts and organizations to self govern. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by red viking

[red viking]

6 minutes ago, mspart said:

Nice back pedaling.  By saying you don't want anyone to do anything about it, you support it.   You don't want the government to say this is wrong, because it is not a big enough thing to go after.   Yet you admit that men have advantage and that equates to possible injuries to women, and opportunities not realized by women because a man beat them.   And you support that by your live and let live mentality.   You are trying to have it both ways and that is not possible. 

mspart

How about if trumptard gets involved in wrestling rule changes too? Maybe he can sign an e.o. changing takedowns to 4 pts. 

[mspart]

The Federal government is already involved via title IX.   So they have to right to say this cannot be done.    And why does that have to be?  Because there are many out there that proclaim that trans women are women and should be able to do and go anywhere all women can do and go.    Will it only be important when a major injury happens?  No it is important now and needs to be addressed.

mspart

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Somebody made that claim there? B.s. I'm not wasting my time. 

well if not

they all claim like you

that it's not happening

and if so rare.

and even if not rare its good

and.. 

well you know the drill 

[red viking]

9 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

well if not

they all claim like you

that it's not happening

and if so rare.

and even if not rare its good

and.. 

well you know the drill 

Strawman after strawman. Nobody on here said men and women are equal at most sports and few if any say that trans should compete w girls. 

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, mspart said:

The Federal government is already involved via title IX.   So they have to right to say this cannot be done.    And why does that have to be?  Because there are many out there that proclaim that trans women are women and should be able to do and go anywhere all women can do and go.    Will it only be important when a major injury happens?  No it is important now and needs to be addressed.

mspart

Yah title 9 is dumb too but different subject. Doesn't mean they have to micromanage everything about ncaa because of title 9. Dumb argument. 

Trump should make takedowns 4 pts because of title 9. 

Edited 9 hours ago by red viking

[Scouts Honor]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

Strawman after strawman. Nobody on here said men and women are equal at most sports and few if any say that trans should compete w girls. 

if you say so

[Scouts Honor]

man you really are a misogynist aren't you 

[Scouts Honor]

no wonder you support men in locker rooms so easily

[red viking]

Just now, Scouts Honor said:

no wonder you support men in locker rooms so easily

Another strawman. Wow. 

[Scouts Honor]

says the gaslighter

[Caveira]

37 minutes ago, mspart said:

The Federal government is already involved via title IX.   So they have to right to say this cannot be done.    And why does that have to be?  Because there are many out there that proclaim that trans women are women and should be able to do and go anywhere all women can do and go.    Will it only be important when a major injury happens?  No it is important now and needs to be addressed.

mspart

Didn’t someone in mma die already?   I’ll go a googling 

[red viking]

30 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

says the gaslighter

Never said it. It's just another winger lie actually. Not a,strawman. 

[Scouts Honor]

gaslit yet again

[red viking]

13 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

gaslit yet again

Show me where I said that

[Scouts Honor]

you gaslight at every post

[JimmySpeaks]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

It's very simple. I support keeping trans out of female sports but don't think federal govt should tell states or NCAA how to run their organizations. 

If I see trans doing girls wrestling here in WI where I'm involved in that specific sport, then I get involved. I shouldn't try to tell other states how to conduct their sports though. 

Simple concept. Basic rights for local govts and organizations to self govern. 

 

So why tell states they have to allow abortions then?  

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

So why tell states they have to allow abortions then?  

Yes. It's a basic freedom protected by the Constitution. 

[JimmySpeaks]

Just now, red viking said:

Yes. It's a basic freedom protected by the Constitution. 

No. It’s. Not.  
 

you just say it is. 

[Scouts Honor]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yes. It's a basic freedom protected by the Constitution. 

show me how abortion is protected by the constitution

i thought you posted that earlier.. but couldn't believe it

try. please.

[Scouts Honor]

must have missed the year 2022..

where it was proven that it does not.