uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: Keep reading. Get all of it. Okay, what about this do you disagree with? Please be specific. “I believe Israel has a right to exist,” he said. “As a Jewish state?” the moderator pressed. “As a state with equal rights,” Mamdani replied. “Because I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, “In the way we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world.” Edited July 11 by uncle bernard
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: Okay, what about this do you disagree with. Please be specific. “I believe Israel has a right to exist,” he said. “As a Jewish state?” the moderator pressed. “As a state with equal rights,” Mamdani replied. “Because I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, “In the way we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world.” So he won’t support them as a state. Even though there are 20+ Arab states that do exactly what he’s says he won’t support. Hence the lying
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, JimmySpeaks said: So he won’t support them as a state. Even though there are 20+ Arab states that do exactly what he’s says he won’t support. Hence the lying 1) He does support them as a state with equal rights. 2) He also condemns those countries in the same quote, you moron. “Because I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, “In the way we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world.” 1
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, uncle bernard said: dup. His comment contradicts the statement about supporting them as a state. Pretty simple that he got caught lying and tried being coy with his words.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: 1) He does support them as a state with equal rights. 2) He also condemns those countries in the same quote, you moron. “Because I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, “In the way we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world.” So he’s come out and said he doesn’t support Iran being a state?
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, JimmySpeaks said: So he’s come out and said he doesn’t support Iran being a state? Yes, the quote is pretty clear. No state has a right to exist as a state *without* equal rights. It's right there in the quote brother.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, uncle bernard said: 1) He does support them as a state with equal rights. 2) He also condemns those countries in the same quote, you moron. “Because I’m not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, “In the way we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world.” Ooooooh he went to calling me a moron. Bahahahahahahahahaha.
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said: His comment contradicts the statement about supporting them as a state. Pretty simple that he got caught lying and tried being coy with his words. No, he supports them as a state with equal rights. That's a consistent metric he applies to every country in the world. You clearly disagree and believe states should be able to exist without equal rights. That's fine. It's your opinion. Just be honest about it. 1
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: Yes, the quote is pretty clear. No state has a right to exist as a state *without* equal rights. It's right there in the quote brother. I’ll believe you when he officially claims he wants to cut off Iran like he does Israel.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: No, he supports them as a state with equal rights. That's a consistent metric he applies to every country in the world. You clearly disagree and believe states should be able to exist without equal rights. That's fine. It's your opinion. Just be honest about it. Has nothing to do with me believing states can or can’t have equal rights. It’s about him lying.
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said: Has nothing to do with me believing states can or can’t have equal rights. It’s about him lying. He didn't lie at all. He could not have been more clear. Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights. He's said this every time he's been asked the question. Where is the lie? The reason you're trying to do this is because you know you can't argue against it. Don't be a coward. Tell us why Israel has the right to exist as a state without equal rights. Edited July 11 by uncle bernard
jross Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: So at worst, he was a misguided aspiring rapper in his 20s. I bet you had a lot of opinions in your 20s that you didn't in your 30s. People are allowed to grow up. The dude has been a paragon of professionalism during his entire campaign. There's a reason people are trying to tie him to stuff from years ago. He's given them nothing to smear him with in his actual campaign. Sure I rethink my views over time but its hard to dismiss support for a terrorist group. That's over the the line for me and I haven't heard or read anything that shows he is different now.
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, jross said: Sure I rethink my views over time but its hard to dismiss support for a terrorist group. That's over the the line for me and I haven't heard or read anything that shows he is different now. Okay, but as I said, he didn't believe they were a terrorist group. That's the message of the song. And please be specific, what have you heard him say now that leads you to believe he supports terrorism?
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: He didn't lie at all. He could not have been more clear. Israel has a right to exist as a state with equal rights. He's said this every time he's been asked the question. Where is the lie? The reason you're trying to do this is because you know you can't argue against it. Don't be a coward. Tell us why Israel has the right to exist as a state without equal rights. Why are there Arab states allowed to exist without equal rights? He supports terrorists and you believe he’s above board. That’s your prerogative for sure.
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: I’ll believe you when he officially claims he wants to cut off Iran like he does Israel. "cut off Iran" From what??? I'm not sure if you noticed, but Iran is not an ally of ours, we just bombed them, and they are under intense economic sanctions.
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said: Why are there Arab states allowed to exist without equal rights? He supports terrorists and you believe he’s above board. That’s your prerogative for sure. They aren't. That's in the quote. Can't be any more clear.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: They aren't. That's in the quote. Can't be any more clear. But they do exist.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: "cut off Iran" From what??? I'm not sure if you noticed, but Iran is not an ally of ours, we just bombed them, and they are under intense economic sanctions. Yet nothing from Mamdani about them being able to exist only as a state with equal rights. Edited July 11 by JimmySpeaks
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 (edited) There’s 20 plus Arab states. How many should be allowed to exist ? Edited July 11 by JimmySpeaks
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, JimmySpeaks said: There’s 20 plus Arab states. How many should be allowed to exist ? Zero.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 5 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: "cut off Iran" From what??? I'm not sure if you noticed, but Iran is not an ally of ours, we just bombed them, and they are under intense economic sanctions. Everything. Until they allow equal rights they shouldn’t be allowed to exist as a state. 8 minutes ago, uncle bernard said: Okay, but as I said, he didn't believe they were a terrorist group. That's the message of the song. And please be specific, what have you heard him say now that leads you to believe he supports terrorism? You really think he’s going to come out and say it? Smfh
uncle bernard Posted July 11 Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said: Yet nothing from Mamdani about them being able to exist only as a state with equal rights. Nobody asked him. You guys act like he's singling out Israel, but nobody asks him about anything other than Israel. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. His actual campaign is hyper-focused on NYC and local issues. He's said he wouldn't visit any foreign country as mayor. The only time Israel comes up in his campaign is when he's asked by the press and he's been open and consistent about his position.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 1 minute ago, uncle bernard said: Zero. So they should all be completely cut off according to Mamdani. Just like he wants to do with Israel.
JimmySpeaks Posted July 11 Posted July 11 Just now, uncle bernard said: Nobody asked him. You guys act like he's singling out Israel, but nobody asks him about anything other than Israel. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. His actual campaign is hyper-focused on NYC and local issues. He's said he wouldn't visit any foreign country as mayor. The only time Israel comes up in his campaign is when he's asked by the press and he's been open and consistent about his position. Why doesn’t he just say I feel the same way about Iran as I do Israel?
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