F***ing white girl?

[JimmySpeaks]

Pathetic is knowing he posted this three weeks ago (I have no idea if he did) and still posting on it a second time. 

[Caveira]

19 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

LOL...seriously? This is the 2nd thread about this?

 

That's just a bit pathetic.  

The news picked it up boss. It’s all over there are like 10-15 articles today.   

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Caveira said:

The news picked it up boss. It’s all over there are like 10-15 articles today.   

LOL...where? Facebook? Your corner of the internet?

"The News" picked this up and it was debated 3 weeks ago.

You're little bubble is just circling back around to it so you have another reason to be outraged AGAIN nearly a month later!

 

 

"The news picked it up!" 

[Caveira]

10 hours ago, Caveira said:

The news picked it up boss. It’s all over there are like 10-15 articles today.   

Ny post 18 

https://nypost.com/2025/06/16/sports/what-brittney-griner-remembers-about-heated-caitlin-clark-moment/

Yahoo 14 hours ago 

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/brittney-griner-sparks-fresh-outrage-001518237.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADwUfTyuFymx7mj3x-xnz9YpBV-lQhsp5WLmGBjP_iBmKLRWZa5fpOb9V9ghD48RCzYvBid1KDZ9Bd3v1puUdNbJWXsCdtVw5m-UF07SkRcqZBdPxmOhfhE7W3TMajc8DWYqVBXPpMGd59Pz6KLO-MtZiMDgRJ8nwNm8MrOM9hDV

Sports illustrated 

https://www.si.com/onsi/womens-fastbreak/news/brittney-griner-sends-clear-message-on-viral-lip-reading-claim-about-caitlin-clark-01jxtw1e2fjh

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25208724-brittney-griner-denies-saying-f-king-white-girl-about-caitlin-clark-viral-video

fox

https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2025-06-16-brittney-griner-addresses-controversy-over-heated-caitlin-clark-exchange/

tmz

https://amp.tmz.com/2025/06/16/brittney-griner-denies-white-girl-comment/

https://www.on3.com/her/news/brittney-griner-denies-calling-caitlin-clark-f-ing-white-girl-in-viral-lip-reading-moment/

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Caveira

[red viking]

11 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Yeah...I'm a BIG Clark fan and I've actually recorded Women's Basketball because of her... but she's not Livvy Dunne. 

Kelsey Plum is more like Dunne, or her new teammate Cunningham or that player from Stanford. 

 

Now...to be clear, I'm NOT saying Clark is ugly. She's...average person attractive. She is NOT 11M a year because she's a pretty white girl attractive. 

She's 11M a year because she's pulling up from 30 feet, changing the game EXCITING. Do not compare her to Dunne. Have you ever watched LSU Gymnastics because of Dunne? Even if the answer is yes, literally millions have watched Iowa and now Indiana WCBB and WNBA respectively because of Clark. 

 

No, I agree she doesn't look like Olivia Dunne. I'm simply making a point that looks are a huge part of endorsements, especially for young women. She's above-average looks for a woman in her mid-20s and that's huge when you're also the best basketball player in the world (I assume she's up there if she isn't). 

I think her endorsements are probably MUCH more than they'd otherwise be, based upon her looks. On the opposite end of the spectrum, what would her endorsements be if she were ugly? Hard to say exactly, but I'm thinking less than $1M instead of about $11M. 

Comparing her looks to Olivia Dunne is also not apples and oranges. Clark is playing a much more popular sport with women that have different body types from gymnasts. I guess a simple way to put it is that the bar is different for good looks to be able to help you bring in money. 

[Bigbrog]

37 minutes ago, red viking said:

No, I agree she doesn't look like Olivia Dunne. I'm simply making a point that looks are a huge part of endorsements, especially for young women. She's above-average looks for a woman in her mid-20s and that's huge when you're also the best basketball player in the world (I assume she's up there if she isn't). 

I think her endorsements are probably MUCH more than they'd otherwise be, based upon her looks. On the opposite end of the spectrum, what would her endorsements be if she were ugly? Hard to say exactly, but I'm thinking less than $1M instead of about $11M. 

Comparing her looks to Olivia Dunne is also not apples and oranges. Clark is playing a much more popular sport with women that have different body types from gymnasts. I guess a simple way to put it is that the bar is different for good looks to be able to help you bring in money. 

So you finally admit Clark isn't getting all the endorsements and accolades because she is white??  But you still think she is making $11M solely because of her looks (which I personally don't think are that great), otherwise it'd be $1M solely on her abilities?  

Do you even step back and read the things you write...for someone who likes to throw the race card out there a lot, you sure don't have a problem saying a lot of sexist things.

Clark is getting paid because she single handily has put the WNBA on the map as a semi-relevant sport...because of her amazing basketball skills...period!

[red viking]

19 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

So you finally admit Clark isn't getting all the endorsements and accolades because she is white??  But you still think she is making $11M solely because of her looks (which I personally don't think are that great), otherwise it'd be $1M solely on her abilities?  

Do you even step back and read the things you write...for someone who likes to throw the race card out there a lot, you sure don't have a problem saying a lot of sexist things.

Clark is getting paid because she single handily has put the WNBA on the map as a semi-relevant sport...because of her amazing basketball skills...period!

You obviously have trouble with reading comprehension. She'd be getting $0 in endorsements if she wasn't a great basketball player. However, her looks, including being white, significantly increase her income above what she'd otherwise get if she wasn't young and attractive. Being white also helps with that. Not fair, but that's reality. Yes, she makes extra money because she's white. 

I made it very clear that her basketball abilities are an important part of her income. This shouldn't be a difficult concept.  

It's funny how wingers only see black and white. It's either 100% or 0%. You need to wake up to the real world, where multiple factors often influence outcomes. 

It's obvious to almost everybody that attractiveness is a big factor in endorsements. How many ugly people do you see in TV commercials? Don't be dumb. 

Edited 3 hours ago by red viking

[Bigbrog]

14 hours ago, red viking said:

Once again, as always, the wingers are making the whites out to be the victims. 

 

14 hours ago, red viking said:

She's laughing all the way to the bank w endorsements that she wouldn't come close to getting if she were black. Made $11 million in endorsements in 2024 alone. Only 1% of her income is directly from wnba. 

Your two first post on this topic...then you started your backpedaling...poorly I might add...and are now all over the place.

Then this...

1 hour ago, red viking said:

You obviously have trouble with reading comprehension. She'd be getting $0 in endorsements if she wasn't a great basketball player. However, her looks, including being white, significantly increase her income above what she'd otherwise get if she wasn't young and attractive. Being white also helps with that. Not fair, but that's reality. Yes, she makes extra money because she's white. 

I made it very clear that her basketball abilities are an important part of her income. This shouldn't be a difficult concept.  

It's funny how wingers only see black and white. It's either 100% or 0%. You need to wake up to the real world, where multiple factors often influence outcomes. 

It's obvious to almost everybody that attractiveness is a big factor in endorsements. How many ugly people do you see in TV commercials? Don't be dumb. 

As with all your ridiculous claims and statements on here...please prove how being white had a significant impact on how much she is getting paid??

[red viking]

53 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

 

Your two first post on this topic...then you started your backpedaling...poorly I might add...and are now all over the place.

Then this...

As with all your ridiculous claims and statements on here...please prove how being white had a significant impact on how much she is getting paid??

Here's a simple AI answer. Not tough to look up. 

 

Racial disparities exist in athlete endorsement pay, with Black athletes, particularly Black women, often earning less than their white counterparts despite comparable or even superior athletic performance. This disparity is influenced by factors like media representation, brand perceptions, and historical biases, leading to fewer endorsement opportunities and lower valuations for Black athletes. 

Here's a more detailed look:

1. Limited Opportunities:

Media Coverage:

White athletes, particularly white women, often receive more media attention and are portrayed in ways that align with traditional beauty standards, making them more appealing to advertisers, according to some sports journalists. 

Brand Image:

Companies may be hesitant to endorse athletes who don't fit their desired image or who might be perceived as controversial, even if those athletes are successful. 

Stereotyping and Bias:

Athletes of color, especially Black women, may face negative stereotypes and biased perceptions that limit their endorsement potential, according to some sports analysts. 

2. Lower Endorsement Values:

Racial Bias in Valuations:

Even when Black athletes secure endorsements, they may receive lower payouts or less favorable terms compared to their white counterparts. 

Historical Disadvantage:

The legacy of racial inequality in sports, including limited access to training, resources, and opportunities, contributes to the current disparities in endorsement pay. 

3. Examples and Insights:

NIL Deals:

While NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) deals have opened new avenues for college athletes to earn money, data from Opendorse indicates that Black athletes, particularly Black women, still receive a smaller percentage of the total compensation compared to their representation in college sports. 

Paige Bueckers' Perspective:

Even a high-profile white athlete like Paige Bueckers acknowledges the disparity, stating that Black women athletes deserve more media coverage and recognition for their contributions to sports. 

Hispanic Athletes:

Studies have shown that Hispanic athletes may also experience a significant reduction in endorsement earnings compared to their white and Black counterparts. 

4. Addressing the Disparities:

Challenging Biases:

Sports organizations and brands need to actively challenge racial biases and stereotypes in media representation, marketing, and endorsement deals.

Promoting Diversity and Inclusion:

Companies should prioritize diversity and inclusion in their endorsement strategies, ensuring that athletes of all backgrounds have equal opportunities.

Empowering Athletes:

Athletes of color can empower themselves by forming their own businesses, advocating for social justice, and leveraging their platforms to create positive change.

Media Responsibility:

Media outlets have a crucial role to play in promoting diverse athletes, challenging harmful stereotypes, and giving equal coverage to athletes of all backgrounds, says a sports media analyst. 

By addressing these issues, the sports industry can move towards a more equitable and inclusive environment where athletes are valued and compensated fairly, regardless of their race or gender. 

[Bigbrog]

Wow....

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Bigbrog said:

Wow....

Yah. The AI must be rigged. I'm sure that's the common winger answer. All more reputable sources of info are against the wingers and the only real truth is found in the fringe winger sources like Breitbart, the Blaze and Fox News. 

Oh...and "scientists" that are funded by the fossil fuel industry. 

Edited 1 hour ago by red viking

[Bigbrog]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

Yah. The AI must be rigged. I'm sure that's the common winger answer. All more reputable sources of info are against the wingers and the only real truth is found in the fringe winger sources like Breitbart, the Blaze and Fox News. 

Oh...and "scientists" that are funded by the fossil fuel industry. 

What?!?!  Did I say AI must be rigged?  I said wow that you have applied absolutely no analytical or critical thinking about what AI "said".  There is no concrete evidence that anything they said is true...it's all anecdotal, based on past history that is no longer true, etc.. In today's day and age and where our society is now, there is zero evidence of this being a systemic thing or is even remotely true.  Yet alone can't be proven as absolute truth that Clark is benefiting for being white.

By the way...your tiresome attacks on these "wingers" and news sources that I have hardly ever heard of nor been on is some way relevant in this back and forth how??  And what does scientists funded by the fossil fuel industry have to do with your claim about the color of Clark's skin??  

[red viking]

7 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

What?!?!  Did I say AI must be rigged?  I said wow that you have applied absolutely no analytical or critical thinking about what AI "said".  There is no concrete evidence that anything they said is true...it's all anecdotal, based on past history that is no longer true, etc.. In today's day and age and where our society is now, there is zero evidence of this being a systemic thing or is even remotely true.  Yet alone can't be proven as absolute truth that Clark is benefiting for being white.

By the way...your tiresome attacks on these "wingers" and news sources that I have hardly ever heard of nor been on is some way relevant in this back and forth how??  And what does scientists funded by the fossil fuel industry have to do with your claim about the color of Clark's skin??  

That's a lie. The AI assessment is based upon a variety of the most updated sources of information. To say that there is no white privilege anymore is a complete lie and, basically, just ignorant. It's not anecdotal. The athletes with the highest endorsements are disproportionately white, compared to their performance. There's some subjectivity related to the degree to which it's occurring, but any objective sources of information is going to admit that it at least occurs to some extent. 

Re: fossil fuel-funded "scientists," it's just consistent with the winger thought process. They decide what they want to believe and then cognitive bias runs the entire show. They reject almost anything coming from a government agency or university (studies by PhD scientists) and instead adopt whatever they like from their fringe winger information sources. The less credible the more they rely on it. 

[WrestlingRasta]

3 hours ago, red viking said:

No, I agree she doesn't look like Olivia Dunne. I'm simply making a point that looks are a huge part of endorsements, especially for young women. She's above-average looks for a woman in her mid-20s and that's huge when you're also the best basketball player in the world (I assume she's up there if she isn't). 

I think her endorsements are probably MUCH more than they'd otherwise be, based upon her looks. On the opposite end of the spectrum, what would her endorsements be if she were ugly? Hard to say exactly, but I'm thinking less than $1M instead of about $11M. 

Comparing her looks to Olivia Dunne is also not apples and oranges. Clark is playing a much more popular sport with women that have different body types from gymnasts. I guess a simple way to put it is that the bar is different for good looks to be able to help you bring in money. 

 

2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

So you finally admit Clark isn't getting all the endorsements and accolades because she is white??  But you still think she is making $11M solely because of her looks (which I personally don't think are that great), otherwise it'd be $1M solely on her abilities?  

Do you even step back and read the things you write...for someone who likes to throw the race card out there a lot, you sure don't have a problem saying a lot of sexist things.

Clark is getting paid because she single handily has put the WNBA on the map as a semi-relevant sport...because of her amazing basketball skills...period!

Saying looks are a big part of Clark's endorsements is like saying Larry Bird became the face of Converse because of his vertical leap.  Ooof.   In both cases, it's just not there. 

If looks were that big of a part compared to skill in the endorsement disparity in the WNBA, Angel Reese would be cleaning the floor with Clark in endorsements.   She is significantly more attractive than Clark, and only gets all those rebounds because she's following up her own missed layups, of which there are many.   

[Bigbrog]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

That's a lie. The AI assessment is based upon a variety of the most updated sources of information. To say that there is no white privilege anymore is a complete lie and, basically, just ignorant. It's not anecdotal. The athletes with the highest endorsements are disproportionately white, compared to their performance. There's some subjectivity related to the degree to which it's occurring, but any objective sources of information is going to admit that it at least occurs to some extent. 

Re: fossil fuel-funded "scientists," it's just consistent with the winger thought process. They decide what they want to believe and then cognitive bias runs the entire show. They reject almost anything coming from a government agency or university (studies by PhD scientists) and instead adopt whatever they like from their fringe winger information sources. The less credible the more they rely on it. 

What was that about athletes with the highest endorsements being "disproportionately white"??    This is why you aren't taken seriously...

Sports stars with the highest off-field business earnings | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer

[Caveira]

10 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

Saying looks are a big part of Clark's endorsements is like saying Larry Bird became the face of Converse because of his vertical leap.  Ooof.   In both cases, it's just not there. 

If looks were that big of a part compared to skill in the endorsement disparity in the WNBA, Angel Reese would be cleaning the floor with Clark in endorsements.   She is significantly more attractive than Clark, and only gets all those rebounds because she's following up her own missed layups, of which there are many.   

There is an amazing vid somewhere.   Not sure the # but apparently she missed her first shot like 16 games in a row.  People betting on it.   It’s funny.  
 

her attitude is absolute trash.  She is costing herself significant $$ as a result of it imo.  

[red viking]

15 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

What was that about athletes with the highest endorsements being "disproportionately white"??    This is why you aren't taken seriously...

Sports stars with the highest off-field business earnings | Columbus Ledger-Enquirer

That list is the epitome of anecdotal. First of all, that appears to be international. Many countries are predominantly colored, so that makes it irrelevant right there. I'm talking about the United States, where almost all of the money is held by whites. Secondly, most of the top athletes in revenue sports are black, so you have to look at the endorsements relative to the performance in order to get a good picture of what is going on. 

[red viking]

21 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

 

Saying looks are a big part of Clark's endorsements is like saying Larry Bird became the face of Converse because of his vertical leap.  Ooof.   In both cases, it's just not there. 

If looks were that big of a part compared to skill in the endorsement disparity in the WNBA, Angel Reese would be cleaning the floor with Clark in endorsements.   She is significantly more attractive than Clark, and only gets all those rebounds because she's following up her own missed layups, of which there are many.   

I can guarantee that Clark is more attractive to the average white person than Reese is. That matters because whites are spending a disproportionate amount of money on the products that the athletees are endorsing. 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, red viking said:

I can guarantee that Clark is more attractive to the average white person than Reese is. That matters because whites are spending a disproportionate amount of money on the products that the athletees are endorsing. 

White dudes are spending tons of $ on the wnba now?    
 

Rasta says Reece is significantly more attractive too.     What say you on the subject of the thread.  Brittney G.   Is she significantly more attractive than Clark?

[red viking]

https://live-global-sport-matter.ws.asu.edu/culture/2021/12/07/black-women-athletes-nil-deals-predictable-paige-bueckers/