Is it a Genocide?

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Jesus.

You are really the dumbest person on these boards.

Stop posting.

Scramble your password.

Abandon your account.
 

Coming from you that’s priceless.  

[1032004]

19 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

You answer none of my questions yet I’m supposed to answer yours.  

I answered both of your questions that were directed at me.  You answered none of mine directed at you. 

[uncle bernard]

1 hour ago, Husker_Du said:

lmfao. now i'm racist! lol. amazing. 

saying 'racist' and 'fascist' don't make me a racist or fascist. it makes you and idiot who can't articulate your thoughts better. 

and you can say it's outdated all you want. the palestinians (and most of the muslim world) want israel wiped off the map.

you're such a tool. 

as if 100 years of attacks against Israel can be mitigated by Hamas saying 'uh, yeah. now we acknowledge their existence.'

also, we killed 1200 israelis on one day.

you're a bleeding heart idiot. 

1) Israel didn’t exist 100 years ago lol

2) “100 years of attacks” Only a tiny fraction of Israelis have been killed in this conflict compared to Palestinians. Millions of Palestinians have lost their lives or homes so people born in Brooklyn could exercise their “right” to the land in Palestine.

The scoreboard isn’t even close here, and you wonder why they hate Israel. 99% of Palestinians alive today have never lived free in their ancestral homeland. 

3) The vast majority of the arab world DOES NOT want to “genocide of jews.” They want their land back from Israel. They want the *apartheid state* of Israel gone. That doesn’t mean they want to kill every jew in the world or the jews who live in Israel. Jews lived in Palestine before the state of Israel existed. They will continue to live in Palestine after the state of Israel too. They just won’t have a Jewish-supremacist ethnostate. They’ll have to live under *shudders in horror* a democracy. 

[1032004]

21 minutes ago, Caveira said:

So are you admitting if Hamas won this made up war.   They would 100% kill every Jew unless they left?

I think they’d try, yes.  But they know they can’t, and thus it’s not actually happening.

[JimmySpeaks]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I answered both of your questions that were directed at me.  You answered none of mine directed at you. 

This was your answer. 

[JimmySpeaks]

5 hours ago, red viking said:

Yah all those stupid women and children. 

That Hamas cares nothing about. 

[red viking]

6 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

That Hamas cares nothing about. 

Yes. That's why it's their fault. 

[uncle bernard]

Also hilarious that people like @Husker_Du complain about "illegal" immigrants who they would never even know existed if the news didn't tell them, yet can't understand the Palestinian cause where, not only did millions of immigrants enter the land without their permission, but they also kicked 700,000 people out of their homes, made them refugees, and put them under military occupation for 75 years.

Imagine if instead of picking fruit or working in construction, Hector from Guatemala showed up on your door with a gun and made you leave your home or die. And then when you moved to a worse house away from home, you then had to get Hector's permission to go to work, buy food, turn on your lights, go to the doctor, etc...That's what conservatives act like is happening here, but it's what actually happened in Palestine, and is still happening today.

 

 

Edited Monday at 09:39 PM by uncle bernard

[uncle bernard]

dup.

Edited Monday at 09:38 PM by uncle bernard

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

Also hilarious that people like @Husker_Du complain about "illegal" immigrants who they would never even know existed if the news didn't tell them, yet can't understand the Palestinian cause where, not only did millions of immigrants enter the land without their permission, but they also kicked 700,000 people out of their homes, made them refugees, and put them under military occupation for 75 years.

Imagine if instead of picking fruit or working in construction, Hector from Guatemala showed up on your door with a gun and made you leave your home or die. That's what conservatives act like is happening here, but it's what actually happened in Palestine, and is still happening today.

 

 

Entered the land.  Bahahahahahahaha. You make it sound like they had a choice to enter.   

[1032004]

20 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

This was your answer. 

Well you answered my question with a question.  I then reiterated my previous answer after you said “me too.”

5 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I said I wasn’t sure whether Israel against the Palestinians was a genocide.  Honestly, I’d probably lean no, although I also wouldn’t just chalk it up to “oh well, sometimes innocent people die in war.”  I think it’s a pretty safe bet that Israel has committed some war crimes.

But I’d say October 7th wasn’t “genocide” by definition either, since it wasn’t widespread.  That’d be like saying 9/11 was a genocide.  

Your turn.  Do you think Israel is committing genocide?

[uncle bernard]

18 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Entered the land.  Bahahahahahahaha. You make it sound like they had a choice to enter.   

They....literally did. The Nazis were defeated and Europe liberated. What are you talking about? 

Many of the jews who did flee Hitler during the Holocaust were actually welcomed in Palestine, many living with Palestinian families' homes with them. The Nakba happened years later, after the war, when the West decided it wanted a proxy in the region when the British Colonial Empire was no longer tenable. 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

They....literally did. The Nazis were defeated and Europe liberated. What are you talking about? 

Many of the jews who did flee Hitler during the Holocaust were actually welcomed in Palestine, many living with Palestinian families' homes with them. The Nakba happened years later, after the war, when the West decided it wanted a proxy in the region when the British Colonial Empire was no longer tenable. 

Many were welcomed.   Bahahahahahahahaha 

[JimmySpeaks]

21 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well you answered my question with a question.  I then reiterated my previous answer after you said “me too.”

Your turn.  Do you think Israel is committing genocide?

I’m not sure. how’s that?

Edited Monday at 10:08 PM by JimmySpeaks

[JimmySpeaks]

53 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

1) Israel didn’t exist 100 years ago lol

2) “100 years of attacks” Only a tiny fraction of Israelis have been killed in this conflict compared to Palestinians. Millions of Palestinians have lost their lives or homes so people born in Brooklyn could exercise their “right” to the land in Palestine.

The scoreboard isn’t even close here, and you wonder why they hate Israel. 99% of Palestinians alive today have never lived free in their ancestral homeland. 

3) The vast majority of the arab world DOES NOT want to “genocide of jews.” They want their land back from Israel. They want the *apartheid state* of Israel gone. That doesn’t mean they want to kill every jew in the world or the jews who live in Israel. Jews lived in Palestine before the state of Israel existed. They will continue to live in Palestine after the state of Israel too. They just won’t have a Jewish-supremacist ethnostate. They’ll have to live under *shudders in horror* a democracy. 

The day after the Jewish people were placed in Israel five Arab countries declared war on them. 

[uncle bernard]

13 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The day after the Jewish people were placed in Israel five Arab countries declared war on them. 

No, the day after Israel, with UN backing, declared itself a Jewish state with control over lands occupied by a majority Arab population who did not elect them or consent to being governed by them. The Jewish people weren’t “placed” there. The ones who *already lived there* were given control of land they didn’t own and the people *who did own that land*,naturally, had a problem with that.

You guys know nothing about the actual history of this land. Just talking out of your asses all day long.

There’s a neat rhetorical trick where you guys treat “Jewish people” and the “state of Israel” as one thing. Those are two very different things. People have a right to exist. Governments do not. 

 

[red viking]

28 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

The day after the Jewish people were placed in Israel five Arab countries declared war on them. 

Land right in their back yard was taken by UN and handed over a group based solely on their religion or ethnicity and fellow Muslims were kicked off their land. That's horrible. Never should have happened. 

Edited Monday at 10:40 PM by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

19 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

No, the day after Israel, with UN backing, declared itself a Jewish state with control over lands occupied by a majority Arab population who did not elect them or consent to being governed by them. The Jewish people weren’t “placed” there. The ones who *already lived there* were given control of land they didn’t own and the people *who did own that land*,naturally, had a problem with that.

You guys know nothing about the actual history of this land. Just talking out of your asses all day long.

There’s a neat rhetorical trick where you guys treat “Jewish people” and the “state of Israel” as one thing. Those are two very different things. People have a right to exist. Governments do not. 

 

Jews were there thousands of years before any Arabs were.  The Nazis tried to wipe them out as a race/ religion hence the reason they were given a homeland due to no place to go. The day after five Arab countries declared war on them because most Arabs feel the same way about them as the Nazis. 
Yep people have a right to exist. 

Edited Monday at 10:55 PM by JimmySpeaks

[El Luchador]

7 hours ago, red viking said:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Gaza_war

As of 14 May 2025, over 55,000 people (53,528 Palestinians^[3][7] and 1,706 Israelis^[c]) have been reported killed in the Gaza war according to the official figures of the Gaza Health Ministry, as well as 166 journalists and media workers,^[d] 120 academics,^[26] and over 224 humanitarian aid workers, a number that includes 179 employees of UNRWA.^[27] Scholars have estimated 80% of Palestinians killed are civilians.^{[5][4][6][28]} A study by OHCHR, which verified fatalities from three independent sources, found that 70% of the Palestinians killed in residential buildings or similar housing were women and children.^[29][30]

The Gaza health ministry is you source? That's priceless.  

[JimmySpeaks]

15 minutes ago, red viking said:

Land right in their back yard was taken by UN and handed over a group based solely on their religion or ethnicity and fellow Muslims were kicked off their land. That's horrible. Never should have happened. 

Umm the British controlled it. Wasn’t theirs. Sorry.  

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, JimmySpeaks said:

Jews were there thousands of years before any Arabs were.  The Nazis tried to wipe them out as a race/ religion hence the reason were given a homeland due to no place to go. The day after five Arab countries declared war on them because Arabs feel the same way about them as the Nazis. 
Yep people have a right to exist. 

Huge difference between staying there and turning the land over to a specific ethnoreligious group and kicking people that have also  been there thousands of years off their properties and making all if them 2nd class citizens.  

Kneejerk reaction to ww2. It was an embarrassment to the human race that the world allowed this. 

Edited Monday at 10:56 PM by red viking

[JimmySpeaks]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Huge difference between staying there and turning the land over to a specific ethnoreligious group and kicking people that have also  been there thousands of years off their properties and making all if them 2nd class citizens.  

Thousands of years after the Jewish people were there 

[JimmySpeaks]

2 minutes ago, red viking said:

Huge difference between staying there and turning the land over to a specific ethnoreligious group and kicking people that have also  been there thousands of years off their properties and making all if them 2nd class citizens.  

Kneejerk reaction to ww2. It was an embarrassment to the human race that the world allowed this. 

Because you know better than the world.  Bahahhahahahah

[El Luchador]

17 minutes ago, red viking said:

Land right in their back yard was taken by UN and handed over a group based solely on their religion or ethnicity and fellow Muslims were kicked off their land. That's horrible. Never should have happened. 

It was a British province and WW2 Jewish refugees were relocated there. Nothing was taken from anyone.  All Arabs who gave up land did so willingly and laughed at the sucker deal they made with the stupid Jews to over pay for worthless land.

[red viking]

Just now, JimmySpeaks said:

Because you know better than the world.  Bahahhahahahah

UN is not "the world." What a dumb statement.