martial arts Is wrestling a martial art?

[Hopa12]

Is wrestling a martial art? Some martial artists from various non-wrestling backgrounds especially a significant number pre-UFC traditional martial artists didn't see wrestling as a martial art due to physical conditioning being the focus of wrestling.

I am just curious. Do you especially your past selves see wrestling as a martial art? Is it a martial art?

Edited Tuesday at 10:45 PM by Hopa12

[wrestle87]

There’s an MMA forum for all these questions.

[peanut]

Yes

[Voice of the Quakers]

Yes

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

16 hours ago, Hopa12 said:

Is wrestling a martial art? Some martial artists from various non-wrestling backgrounds especially a significant number pre-UFC traditional martial artists didn't see wrestling as a martial art due to physical conditioning being the focus of wrestling.

I am just curious. Do you especially your past selves see wrestling as a martial art? Is it a martial art?

The focus is not physical conditioning, either.

[CHROMEBIRD]

18 hours ago, Hopa12 said:

Is wrestling a martial art? Some martial artists from various non-wrestling backgrounds especially a significant number pre-UFC traditional martial artists didn't see wrestling as a martial art due to physical conditioning being the focus of wrestling.

I am just curious. Do you especially your past selves see wrestling as a martial art? Is it a martial art?

Maybe a more important question for you is, why do you care? For most of us here, it probably doesn't matter if someone categorizes wrestling a martial art, or a sport, or a lifestyle, or a challenge or what; just that we have gotten or continue to get what we and others want from it. What are you trying to get out of wrestling?

From this and your other TLDR post, it sounds like you decided to give wrestling a try but have doubts that it will prepare you for MMA. Or that it doesn't teach you self-defense skills. Or that you think it relies too much on strength & endurance rather than technique. Or something else, I don't know, it's hard to tell if you're earnestly asking or just philosophizing, or if you're one of Jimmy's alts trolling us. But try taking a step back and thinking about what you want out of wrestling, then ask us specifically how wrestling can or cannot help you get there. You'll likely get more thoughtful and useful responses.

[MPhillips]

2 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

why do you care?

I don't believe he really does. Seems like a game to me...

[alex1fly]

2 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Maybe a more important question for you is, why do you care? For most of us here, it probably doesn't matter if someone categorizes wrestling a martial art, or a sport, or a lifestyle, or a challenge or what; just that we have gotten or continue to get what we and others want from it. What are you trying to get out of wrestling?

From this and your other TLDR post, it sounds like you decided to give wrestling a try but have doubts that it will prepare you for MMA. Or that it doesn't teach you self-defense skills. Or that you think it relies too much on strength & endurance rather than technique. Or something else, I don't know, it's hard to tell if you're earnestly asking or just philosophizing, or if you're one of Jimmy's alts trolling us. But try taking a step back and thinking about what you want out of wrestling, then ask us specifically how wrestling can or cannot help you get there. You'll likely get more thoughtful and useful responses.

They could also just be a high schooler taking advice from BJJ people and asking for other opinions. 

However the bolded part is a good question - what is OP trying to get out of wrestling? Forget what it's called, forget what some "let me lie down to fight while I insult every combat sport except my own" jabroni said - what do you want from wrestling, OP? If it's "self defense" then absolutely, unequivocally, without a doubt wrestling helps you. Is it the only thing that helps you, or even the best thing, I'd say no. But if you learn to wrestle AND learn how to strike AND learn how to disarm someone then you will be a powerful force if the need ever arises (also remember "Avoiding Fights" is a crucial skill as well).

I truly can't imagine needing to defend myself and choosing to lie down. BJJ is weird.

[MPhillips]

He's jerking chains fellas.  Here's his post from the deplorable section over in the NWT forum...