Ono eligibility

[Boring]

21 minutes ago, Seanyd said:

Do you follow wrestling? 

Yeah. I consider anybody under 150 pounds to be a munchkin though. 

[scourge165]

11 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

See, this shows how silly you are. I was literally responding to a post where the person was talking about the constitutional rights of CITIZENS.

Also, you are literally saying that I am poorly informed because you might disagree with me.  That is a real problem.  People will never be able to have productive discussions with that type of attitude.

No, I'm not saying you're poorly informed because you're disagreeing with me, I'm saying it because...you're wrong. 

The right to protest or to freedom of speech is NOT reserved for citizens. It's absolutely afforded to anyone here on a student visa. 

 

11 hours ago, Boring said:

In other words you are entitled to your own beliefs, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

That's a perfect way of putting it.

 

It takes SOOO little if you are ignorant about the laws impacting those here on student visas or...any other types of visa, Green Cards, any other way you're on US Soil... it's actually amazing someone could be an adult and think this would be about ME disagreeing and just not understand Freedom of Speech or the 1st amendment and think that was somehow a personal thing. 

[scourge165]

11 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You literally referenced my post

Yeah, I "LITERALLY" didn't until you...I guess assumed I did and then replied to me.

 

At THAT point, sure, I replied to you.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

9 hours ago, scourge165 said:

No, I'm not saying you're poorly informed because you're disagreeing with me, I'm saying it because...you're wrong. 

The right to protest or to freedom of speech is NOT reserved for citizens. It's absolutely afforded to anyone here on a student visa. 

 

Where in the Constitution does it say that people are who are here as guests (or illegally entered the country) have the same rights as citizens?  Or are we talking about Supreme Court rulings? You do know that decisions can be overturned, correct?

Or are you poorly informed?

[Le duke]

Where in the Constitution does it say that people are who are here as guests (or illegally entered the country) have the same rights as citizens?  Or are we talking about Supreme Court rulings? You do know that decisions can be overturned, correct?
Or are you poorly informed?

The 14th Amendment.


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[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

51 minutes ago, Le duke said:

The 14th Amendment.


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What does it say?  (I know what it says btw)

It doesn't say anything about student visas, aliens, etc.

You are referring to court interpretations of the 14th.  

You might not like it, but that is the way it is...

Edited 5 hours ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[GimJustafan]

ok so back to the original ? at hand 

 

ono = 1 year of eligibility

without a political rant  has this been confirmed?  

Edited 3 hours ago by GimJustafan
typo

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 minute ago, GimJustafan said:

ok so back to the original ? at hand 

 

ono = 1 year of eligibility

without a political rant  has this been confirmed?  

Supposedly Cael said it, haven't actually heard or seen him say it.  Flo also made it seem like he has a redshirt left.  Not sure if it would be wise to have him use the shirt, though.

[Dogbone]

3 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

What does it say?  (I know what it says btw)

It doesn't say anything about student visas, aliens, etc.

You are referring to court interpretations of the 14th.  

You might not like it, but that is the way it is...

Okay, now I know you are not being serious.  Great job, trolling.  I give B+ on the Cinnabon scale.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

5 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

Okay, now I know you are not being serious.  Great job, trolling.  I give B+ on the Cinnabon scale.

I asked a simple question about Ono's eligibility. 

A buffoon commented that he thinks Ono has only one year because he is afraid of being deported to the El Salvador Supermax.  

I responded that I do not expect this to happen because I don't forsee him being involved in protests.  (I guess I should have mentioned violent protests, but that was a mistake on my part)

This turned into a discussion of non-citizens and constitutional rights.  I'm sorry that I am hurting so many feelings by informing many of you that no such rights were written into the constitution.  Just a fact.  The current court interpretation backs these rights being extended to non-citizens, but this could change (just like Plessy v Ferguson and Roe v Wade).  In fact a federal judge just ruled that the 5th amendment does not apply to non-citizens.

I have never given my opinion on this stuff, just stated facts.

Please show me where the 5th and 14th mentions student visas... 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

18 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

 

Please show me where the 5th and 14th mentions student visas... 

@okokzach: instead of leaving a poop emoji, perhaps show where it mentions student visas in the 5th or 14th?

[wrestlingfan22]

11 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

@okokzach: instead of leaving a poop emoji, perhaps show where it mentions student visas in the 5th or 14th?

Are you suggesting those under student visas are not people or people under US Juridiction?

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

[okokzach]

21 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

@okokzach: instead of leaving a poop emoji, perhaps show where it mentions student visas in the 5th or 14th?

Your crap opinions have already been shown to be just that throughout this thread. If you want to keep ramming your thick skull into a wall to get your emotions out or to get attention or whatever your motivation is, go for it. Hope it's scratching that itch for you 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

12 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Your crap opinions have already been shown to be just that throughout this thread. If you want to keep ramming your thick skull into a wall to get your emotions out or to get attention or whatever your motivation is, go for it. Hope it's scratching that itch for you 

Thanks Zack! Have a nice day!

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

34 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

Are you suggesting those under student visas are not people or people under US Juridiction?

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

You conveniently left the preceding sentences out: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Seems to largely be about citizens and what their rights are, no?

I don't see anything about deporting anyone ...

I am fully aware that the courts have ruled that the Bill of Rights and other constitutional protections are extended to everyone inside of the US and even outside of the US in US custody (Gitmo).  All that I have been saying all along is that this is all subject to change.  Don't hate the messenger.  

I just wanted to know about Ono's eligibility.  I will not be continuing this discussion here.  If you want to engage me on this matter, feel free to do it on the non-wrestling forum.

Edited 1 hour ago by Interviewed_at_Weehawken

[happyvalet]

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

You conveniently left the preceding sentences out: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Seems to largely be about citizens and what their rights are, no?

I don't see anything about deporting anyone ...

I am fully aware that the courts have ruled that the Bill of Rights and other constitutional protections are extended to everyone inside of the US and even outside of the US in US custody (Gitmo).  All that I have been saying all along is that this is all subject to change.  Don't hate the messenger.  

I just wanted to know about Ono's eligibility.  I will not be continuing this discussion here.  If you want to engage me on this matter, feel free to do it on the non-wrestling forum.

See the semicolon? See "nor"? Do those tell you anything? 

[Gene Mills Fan]

37 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

See the semicolon? See "nor"? Do those tell you anything? 

but there are always added laws and ammendments

On September 30, 1996, President Bill Clinton signed the "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION REFORM AND IMMIGRANT RESPONSIBILITY ACT OF 1996"

 Does this have any meaning

UhOh off to the  ZOO!!

Edited 40 minutes ago by Gene Mills Fan

[Dogbone]

49 minutes ago, happyvalet said:

See the semicolon? See "nor"? Do those tell you anything?